From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 24 15:04:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B02106566C for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715EC8FC18 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1ReT9E-0004wA-HP>; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:04:32 +0100 Received: from e178017174.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.17.174] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1ReT9E-0006tl-Cb>; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:04:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4EF5E9FF.2020300@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:04:31 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Best References: <4EF25468.9040204@gmail.com> <4EF2C613.3020609@digsys.bg> <4EF3D68C.2060803@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111223074706.1afe4d26@zelda.sugioarto.com> <4EF4474B.3050203@digsys.bg> <20111223114424.GA60815@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20111223114424.GA60815@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig133FBDE62B2C1BF2664C746E" X-Originating-IP: 85.178.17.174 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:14:17 +0000 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:04:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig133FBDE62B2C1BF2664C746E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/23/11 12:44, Alexander Best wrote: [...] >> Many suggested that the Linux binaries be run via the FreeBSD Linux=20 >> emulation. Unchanged. >> There is one problem here though, the emulation is still 32 bit. >=20 > plus the current emulation layer is far from complete. a lot of stuff h= asn't > been implemented yet (meaning it's missing or implemented as dummy code= ). >=20 > try running recent firefox linux binaries on freebsd. they will all cra= sh > almost instantly. >=20 > cheers. > alex >=20 [...] Sometimes I'm glad to have the Linuxulator, for instance using Mathematica or an older 32bit IDL or even MATLAB. But lately, I run into problems on more recent platforms like FreeBSD 9 and 10. There maybe serious reasons having the Linuxulator, i do not know. But if not, why spending rare developer resources on that? As far as I'm concerned, the only real reason having the Linuxulator is some stuff from Adobe for desktop systems, Flash. That's it. For the scientific stuff, I try to move my people towards OpenSource, since we do "standard" stuff and I expect students and scientists solving problems without fancy coloured clicky funny things. In "production", this might be another point of view. SciLab from INRIA is great, MuPAD, MAXIMA also. But is there a real need running the Linux binary of Forefox on FreeBSD? Regards, Oliver --------------enig133FBDE62B2C1BF2664C746E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO9en/AAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8GwwIAIl5W7/ayoJ+SaVnppODyWxi R5/yVp8Zlro5jTO7iZB4bxWcij/PZ6d7ZPqc+1hcehj+4tXxyoCvwa5MuxLSnZC5 +gNCVgKkSLy8K3pcl386T4GNg65jrT3KPTahyJ+u2+bHP3jkPhL3ecRmoa4df5Ci H3PAxWZDwF29UAAPbi1/6Nx61O1cHlN8+1eSQ0NwTObV31y9CTkbx1RbFTuieYP6 kMuAd5ifa5tbkOkZwUjNktLPOQsVClGN0kt7K8FYPBeJeCL/JpyiYH17anvxRbOA x//JlDs5xMV0ZL7AQWYlwcTvCAmAHJot6CgnZBzuaRTOD6+HipPnAbFXfH8Y9zY= =tjCR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig133FBDE62B2C1BF2664C746E--