From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 1 13:53:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CD216A41F for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:53:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jiashiun@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD0F43D5C for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:53:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jiashiun@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so263215rna for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 06:53:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BXpu0I15kK4VkjB01/JHgtfQIxEb0zE2dr2flIh8HRRLI8+StTqZTnGqdBUWH2BYBJPbRqnmESjUQ/Bu07iF9U9G93DU8iKEy1brwqwjcmRHKeHnrBWU/jDNwFb6NUl22vh0VwoWuHj2O1vm9tw9B8gI//1lBeWd6s/XZW3TjYY= Received: by 10.38.67.12 with SMTP id p12mr284910rna; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 06:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.12.17 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 06:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1d6d20bc050701065367a01e8b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:53:27 +0800 From: Jia-Shiun Li To: Guy Dawson In-Reply-To: <42C5220B.1000203@crossflight.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506290818.j5T8IELL002348@peedub.jennejohn.org> <42C3F72E.9070902@speakeasy.net> <8f55402905063018441217c95a@mail.gmail.com> <20050701015457.GC4460@dragon.NUXI.org> <42C5220B.1000203@crossflight.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 X2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jia-Shiun Li List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:53:28 -0000 On 7/1/05, Guy Dawson wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > It really should be that simple. All the external interfaces and pins > > are the same for Athlon64-939 and Athlon64 X2. They have the same > > thermal specifications, etc... >=20 > It's the only way AMD could reasonably do it. To require a different > motherboard for X1 (?) and X2 chips would have the mobo makers rioting! That's what Intel did. Requiring a new i945/i955-based board for their rushed dual-core CPUs. Only use the same socket but varied pin definition. If you put the new CPU on an i915 board, it will shutdown automatically to 'protect'. In contrast Athlon64 claimed to be designed with dual-core capability in mind from the beginning. Jia-Shiun.