From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 17 00:13:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534111065676 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 00:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1732B8FC1A for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 00:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QM7v3-0007Ic-9b for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:26 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:48 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110517001348.GI68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y96v7rNg6HAoELs5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110516210935.GA91689@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 00:13:53 -0000 --y96v7rNg6HAoELs5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > >=20 > > Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be > > doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. > > Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? >=20 > I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative > to GIMP is Cinepaint. I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui. It has > some, err, "quirks", but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives, > because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP. Among > the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP > often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an > image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison. The interface is > occasionally a bit glitchy, though. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece. I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free alternat= ive. Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --y96v7rNg6HAoELs5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0b28AAoJEIpckszW26+RM2AIAKfZ1ky4+/THVghJhgiZrwTf hPRNbcfhl46n9/wmzkXY80djNT2vXEnVhOzM8pdEAq/ZdIGEntuxSA82LsN6tsV+ VrZ1jyD9a5p0tIhHGKTaI7m9m9EJ+YXFnPq7iiDIIwbJyy4td1JznNGBccQnow8R VCKuhF8/jVRlHagTWYz1m+/e5/WEcNynty53ImAgjr0hfHxbNRUyb58e7apJuGxu SP9WRB4XI9mUPc7jb9LLJUpm6SAtCn4UWJ7kttm0WdSraLDuXo7aCPoKGhOyHUR8 Tsn8yd4RRq+c3DeGb5DMSgm5zQ89damWgls38uyQFAG3cndsM0u2sA76nf6E+vs= =OII6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y96v7rNg6HAoELs5--