From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mon Apr 13 13:07:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0972BE0B8 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [88.98.225.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49186t618Xz4Zmn for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from crayon2.yoonka.com (crayon2.yoonka.com [10.70.7.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 03DD7nS2025259 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:07:49 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Subject: Re: Radeon 5770, graphics/gpu-firmware-kmod, and graphics/drm-fbsd11.2-kmod To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <202004131231.03DCVxkN022232@sdf.org> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:07:49 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202004131231.03DCVxkN022232@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49186t618Xz4Zmn X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list1@gjunka.com designates 88.98.225.149 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list1@gjunka.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:88.98.225.149:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-x11@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gjunka.com]; IP_SCORE(-3.57)[ip: (-9.35), ipnet: 88.98.192.0/18(-4.67), asn: 56478(-3.74), country: GB(-0.07)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:56478, ipnet:88.98.192.0/18, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:07:51 -0000 On 13/04/2020 12:31, Scott Bennett wrote: >> >> I believe so, but I don't have the hardware to test. >> drm-fbsd11.2-kmod is fairly old though, and only works on 11. Any >> reason you haven't updated to FreeBSD 12? > Yes. To date, every attempt to build 12.1-STABLE on my 11.3-STABLE > system has failed in seconds. I have no idea how I can upgrade to 12.1-STABLE > until I can build it. I do emphatically *not* intend to install from scratch > again, especially not given the thoroughly braindead ZFS installation option in > the FreeBSD installer. I bit the bullet *once* just to get to root-on-ZFS under > 11.1, and it required a *lot* of work to get it configured the way I wanted it > because of the idiot installer. Do you mean 12-STABLE or 12.1-RELEASE? What's exactly failing? I compiled 12-STABLE successfully last week, albeit admittedly not on 11. > Thus, for the fifth time since I began using FreeBSD at the beginning of 2005 > (5.2.1-RELEASE), I do not have safely usable graphics on my system. That leaves > me with only lynx(1) as a web browser and many other applications I can't run. > mplayer, for example, is only good for audio files, not video files. Even though > NetBSD just introduced ZFS in 9.0, mprime, which I run, is not available for any > other BSD besides FreeBSD. Also, it's not clear to me that pools upgraded to the > features introduced in FreeBSD 11.2 can be used with whatever level of ZFS is > currently imported into NetBSD. So NetBSD isn't an option for me. AFAIK, none of > the other BSDs have ever implemented superpages either. So, for the nonce, I am > stuck with FreeBSD. I share your pain. I can't use any of my desktop with FreeBSD 12-X apart from one, which is running an NVidia based graphics. But I just learned recently that 13 CURRENT works on the one that has AMD Vega 64 so maybe I will convince myself to take more risk and switch, at least a desktop (not any of my servers), to 13 CURRENT? -- GrzegorzJ