From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 01:05:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BA2636A for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 01:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from burnttofu.net (burnttofu.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1:9d00::9977]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C054D119B for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 01:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from schuylkill.es.net ([IPv6:2001:400:14:1:e4a6:c53b:b46e:a1a8]) (authenticated bits=0) by burnttofu.net (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rB415Kvk016121 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 3 Dec 2013 20:05:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from michael@rancid.berkeley.edu) Message-ID: <529E7FD0.6060500@rancid.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:05:20 -0800 From: Michael Sinatra User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris H , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND chroot environment in 10-RELEASE...gone? References: <1386086749.9599.54995173.6CD35E54@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20131203.223612.74719903.sthaug@nethelp.no> <560e9b24248600b4125c8786712d0bf9.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <560e9b24248600b4125c8786712d0bf9.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (burnttofu.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1:9d00::9977]); Tue, 03 Dec 2013 20:05:22 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 01:05:32 -0000 On 12/3/13 2:10 PM, Chris H wrote: > > I strongly disagree. The BIND is still available within FreeBSD for anyone who chooses to > use/install it. Further, nothing stops anyone who wishes to continue using the CHROOT(8) > script(s) that provided the BIND with a chroot. Any copy of a FreeBSD-8 (maybe even 9) > install CD/DVD holds all the "magic" required. It is _easily_ acquired, and implemented. In > fact, one could easily turn the whole affair into an automated routine. > So. Bottom line; the BIND still remains with FreeBSD, nothing has been taken away. > The CHROOT(8) scripts are still easily available, and can be implemented, at will, by > anyone who cares to continue using it. > What's the big deal? Indeed, what's the big deal with putting said goop back into the port so that it can be easily installed/maintained by admins? If it's easy to do manually, or to automate by admins, it should be even easier to automate in the port. michael PS. As I already mentioned, your suggestion is exactly what I had already planned to do. I just have no idea if anything I, or anyone else does will be committed back to the port.