From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 21 21:52:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74443106566B; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C1D8FC1C; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6LLq1x1062025; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6LLq1mw062024; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:52:01 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20090721215201.GA61999@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <1248027417.14210.110.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <58F0204B-ECE6-479A-AAC2-7868E71ABB43@exscape.org> <367b2c980907200729s57eafbbfw83c8ae5a94f41ffc@mail.gmail.com> <4A6628F0.6080802@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A6628F0.6080802@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Olivier SMEDTS , Ken Smith , freebsd-stable , Thomas Backman , FreeBSD current Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: Shared Library Versions bumped... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:52:12 -0000 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:45:36PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > > I have another box (of many) running FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2/amd64 with 2 GB > RAM and a Athlon64 2,2GHz CPU having 800(!) ports installed. Can you > imagine how long this box will be occupied by 'portupgrade -af'? I guess > 'cherry-picking' is the only solution. How many of those 800 ports are actually necessary and used? It would be better to get generate a complete list of your installed ports, use pkg_deinstall or pkg_delete to remove all ports, and then selectively re-install ports that are actually used. > FreeBSD 8.0 on AMD64 does have serious performance issues these days, > try to compile a compiler (gcc44, for instance) and watch how bumpy your > X11 or how network traffic on a 'headless' server becomes. Kernel > compilation time has been increased by approx 10 minutes on the 8 core > box with 16 GB RAM since ~ 4 months now. I know, this is a kind of off > topic for the questiojns discussed at the moment, but I guess those > problems and fun are guaranteed for those having lots of ports, FreeBSD > 8 running on AMD64 ;-)) > I compile gcc trunk on my 2 cpu amd64 based system almost everyday. I don't see the performance issue you seem to have. Do you use ULE? If yes, then switch to 4BSD. -- Steve