Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:24:32 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOC obstructs encryption export again - Non USA crypto base again ? Message-ID: <201410221424.s9MEOWwT000965@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: Your message "Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:38:28 -0000." <44623.1413905908@critter.freebsd.dk>
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"Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > In message <201410211451.s9LEpbEc023384@fire.js.berklix.net>, "Julian H. Stacey > " writes: > > >How can FreeBSD best re-segregate crypto components of its repository again, > >ready to move crypto components outside the USA, as USA DOC imperils again ? > >[...] > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/17/intel_subsidiary_crypto_export_fine/ > > "US government fines Intel's Wind River over crypto exports" > > As far as I have been able to uncover, this settlement is about a > commercial closed source component, using specific hardware-crypto-assist, > for which no programming details have been made publically available. > > That means that WR cannot fly under the Wassenaar Arrangement "in the > public domain" carveout, and I guess somebody there overlooked that little > detail. > > We on the other hand make everything we do available, so we're solidly > inside that carveout. > > For details see: bottom of page 3 "GENERAL SOFTWARE NOTE" and > the definition of "in the public domain" at the bottom of page 208 > in this document: > > http://www.wassenaar.org/controllists/2013/WA-LIST%20%2813%29%201/WA-LIST%20%2813%29%201.pdf Thanks for the URL Poul-Henning, For info for others: ] P.3: ] GENERAL SOFTWARE NOTE ] The Lists do not control "software" ] which is any of ] the following: ] ... ] 2. "In the public domain"; or ] ... ] P.208 ] GTN "In the public domain" ] GSN This means "technology" or "software" which has been made available ] ML 22 without restrictions upon ] its further dissemination. ] Note Copyright restrictions do not remove "technology" or "software" ] from being "in the public domain". > In other words Julian: Don't panic. > > Worst case, we'll move the entire svn server out of USA. Good, can relax a bit then, Thanks :-) PS I've since read: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2014-October/051182.html > ITAR has a couple > of nice commonsense exceptions. (See, e.g., ITAR 120.10 (5): ITAR "does > not include information concerning general scientific, mathematical, or > engineering principles commonly taught in schools, colleges, and > universities or information in the public domain.") > > Unfortunately, those exceptions aren't enough to save you from really > expensive legal bills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations Shows ITAR as USA national regs. I researched the ref. ITAR 120.10 (5) & wrote to gnupg-users@gnupg.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix C Sys Eng Consultant Munich http://berklix.com Indent previous with "> ". Interleave reply paragraphs like a play script. Send plain text, not quoted-printable, HTML, base64, or multipart/alternative.
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