From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon May 20 10:28:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C0F15A8A51 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 10:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from connect.ultra-secure.de (connect.ultra-secure.de [88.198.71.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F236F3D0 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 10:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (Haraka outbound); Mon, 20 May 2019 12:28:34 +0200 Received-SPF: None (connect.ultra-secure.de: domain of ultra-secure.de does not designate 127.0.0.10 as permitted sender) receiver=connect.ultra-secure.de; identity=mailfrom; client-ip=127.0.0.10; helo=connect.ultra-secure.de; envelope-from= Received: from connect.ultra-secure.de (webmail [127.0.0.10]) by connect.ultra-secure.de (Haraka/2.6.2-toaster) with ESMTPSA id 069AAD3E-2DE1-42F0-B61D-FBF494FCF3E9.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA verify=NO); Mon, 20 May 2019 12:28:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 12:28:31 +0200 From: rainer@ultra-secure.de To: Igor Mozolevsky Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: FreeBSD Core Team Response to Controversial Social Media Posts In-Reply-To: References: <868svf6r05.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <00144DCD-7DB6-475A-9719-D5B714B84DC8@cs.huji.ac.il> Message-ID: <7a43b8820ec8507b66811b441c9e2301@ultra-secure.de> X-Sender: rainer@ultra-secure.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-Haraka-GeoIP: --, , NaNkm X-Haraka-GeoIP-Received: X-Haraka-p0f: os="undefined undefined" link_type="undefined" distance=undefined total_conn=undefined shared_ip=Y X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on spamassassin X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_00, SPF_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Haraka-Karma: score: 6, good: 939, bad: 0, connections: 945, history: 939, pass:all_good, relaying X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 57F236F3D0 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.26)[-0.260,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.21)[ipnet: 88.198.0.0/16(0.75), asn: 24940(-1.80), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.925,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ultra-secure.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[connect.ultra-secure.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.27)[-0.275,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:88.198.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 10:28:43 -0000 Am 2019-05-20 11:33, schrieb Igor Mozolevsky: > So you think a discussion on whether it is appropriate that CoC Ctte > restricts freedom of expression is bikeshedding? > > Thank you for your valuable contribution! IMO, the CoC was not meant to solve, decide or even regulate discussion about decades-old, very controversial geo-political problems. As such, I don't think it even applies here and the complaint should be dismissed on these grounds. Of course, the FreeBSD project is free to boot developers from its ranks more or less at will (not sure if you can sue your way back in) - but for that a new CoC wouldn't have been needed to begin with ;-)