From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 07:45:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6652F1065775; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [IPv6:2001:4068:10::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA988FC15; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (amavis.fra.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E808941C6FC; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:45:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([192.168.74.103]) by localhost (amavis.fra.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kJqtVjA0bSNA; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:45:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 8EC8341C6F2; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:45:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6004448F3; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:43:56 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Julian Elischer In-Reply-To: <4CE0E0BD.1040707@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20101115073916.X24596@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <4CDEFC2D.4090908@freebsd.org> <4CDF0D87.70700@freebsd.org> <4CDF1F7E.8000601@freebsd.org> <20101114042427.V78896@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> <4CE0E0BD.1040707@freebsd.org> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: virtualization@freebsd.org, Jamie Gritton Subject: Re: limitations on jail style virtualization X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:45:07 -0000 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Julian Elischer wrote: Julian, > this sort of dovetails into something I've been thinking about for a while, > which is NUMA support. really good thoughts, but bad timing and wrong target audience I think. 1) first of all you want the basic underlying OS support all sort of things and as we know people are working on things here and there and it's not only NUMA. 2) before 1) is rock solid I will not even think about how to leverage it for VIMAGE. It would really just be a waste of time; it will however be a good idea to make sure that the proposals people come up with in 1) will scale for VIMAGE as well, but that's a different story. I am at least trying to keep an eye on the network stack side. 3) Before VIMAGE is NOT stable we MUST NOT introduce more complexity. So if you are eager to work on this I am all for it and you should get in touch with the folks doing 1). /bz -- Bjoern A. Zeeb Welcome a new stage of life. Going to jail sucks -- All my daemons like it! http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails.html