From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Oct 2 10:06:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5895E3B75B for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 10:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net [194.109.24.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.net", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 811212838 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 10:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan ([83.160.85.125]) by smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net with ESMTP id yxbgdPYWEnIXbyxbhd8tMh; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 12:05:49 +0200 Received: from yokozuna (yokozuna [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v92A5k7E019184 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Oct 2017 12:05:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 12:05:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster? In-Reply-To: <20171002004919.GL53186@over-yonder.net> Message-ID: References: <81D84A650858BA40BF6936408052E6BC0138263988@msgdb11.utad.utoledo.edu> <201709290909.v8T99QtU006095@mxdrop301.xs4all.net> <20171002004919.GL53186@over-yonder.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfBTeah5OA4iypFBlMaZ343qM24/CzfimvrOg7LxXLpEjpjL8hNyZFmU1W6z7MJMQmWXAJFkIjojS7Lejvx5rbmmGoOB+CtXLtLVa45P+6K/ERnF6ehXb oLO8s39Iyi9cgnxqpGr9NSd5N24AUOAVsZflAUJ0zqFdyL0Spqmvoabdi8Di8euxDPp/Jq+yLNTLBYF07i+LjAyKTH7YFKzIgwI2/ZEShnHMHTQeQ553V+hu z/V1aIcLAfuUKF7OmZ8DSQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 10:07:00 -0000 On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, the wise Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 09:21:31PM +0200 I heard the voice of Marco > Beishuizen, and lo! it spake thus: >> >> Using portupgrade every day and still works great. Tried portmaster >> once but liked portupgrade more. I use poudriere just for testing >> ports. > > I also use portupgrade constantly on several systems, and portmaster > occasionally for some special cases where it has advantages. > > I also use poudriere on a lot of systems. Actually, most, nowadays. And > I'm extremely happy with it. But I expect the systems I'm running > straight out of ports now will continue to do so for a very long time, > since poudriere just won't fit at all. I agree, imho poudriere is designed to maintain ports and testing them, or if you have to build ports for lots of systems. And it works very well for that too. But portupgrade and portmaster are imho far better in just tracking newer versions of installed ports. I'm also not sure if poudriere is able to track ports on a STABLE system (as in my case). So I hope both tools will be available in the future. -- Breeding rabbits is a hare raising experience.