From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 5 15:43:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12440 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-186.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.186]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12433; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA11363; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 23:28:17 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199606052128.XAA11363@vector.jhs.no_domain> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.jhs.no_domain: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Keith Bostic cc: current@freebsd.org, terry@lambert.org Subject: Re: editors From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (later) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH version 1.6.5 95 12 11, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Jun 1996 13:59:51 EDT." <199606041759.NAA21311@mongoose.bostic.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 23:28:16 +0200 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: Keith Bostic > > > Here are patches to implement a terser version of above on > > FreeBSD-current/usr.bin/vi, ( to stop vi newbies getting stranded ). > > > > I've tested (& installed here) with set showmode ruler showdirty. > > If someone would try them, & they're considered OK, > > maybe they're acceptable for inclusion in src/ ? > > I'm hesitant to do this. The reason is that this will require > lots and lots of repaint characters whenever the lower line gets > updated, It's for people like my girlfriend (used to WordPerfect/Word), working on local fast screens, but who rarely use or don't know vi. Not for experienced vi users who do remote vi's under xterms around the globe on slow links. I doubt we (this list) would use this extended `showmode' much ourselves, it's for our non-vi-familiar local associates. > and it's not going to fit if the ruler option is on as well. It does fit actually, (didn't when first implemented but I truncated the text, before posting the patches). All is OK with: resize :li#45::co#65: :set all lines=45 term="xterm" ruler columns=65 showdirty nomodeline showmode window=44 > What I'd like to do is have a "novice" mode where vi splits the > screen and puts a full help file into the lower half, with the > common commands immediately visible. Yes, occured to me too, but I figured anything beyond a minor tweak was best off leaving to the master :-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/