From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Nov 23 08:49:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D1ADE450C for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khanzf@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x243.google.com (mail-qt0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2F383030 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khanzf@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x243.google.com with SMTP id w10so15082726qtb.10 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:49:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UuSIifT9AO5NwfwtPDpATP+HC4kjXBHk4dPGbaz5NOk=; b=FIsz2xkcUTAic2xtiZCMrLM0fUwl27nPiUVchKeCsjRH6mHQIVnONieGoa6uLavaTz y/yA1fj4MKByXtE7W6eu4JE2icLdmXfS8XHRT0v0NGcjX88vip6+Ar9UAcUTPmQd0xut s/zMD6Cp20CiPoVkTbIqHqxKmEztobmEvcq9gwDawrTO05qRx9hDtahdfQJpwFJQdPyG v9AtXE2FZu+KNRSsavl18aqUCtTpwrVKKOWRMcqqBT7bJ8joX3VSblYaMIvLqzP+XVBT l5qJVfsi5jSx0Sv6p18VUdVP4qmke4Lts31WAnWIkzDbEx/7br5B0zRSoTGdO2dJ6i8Y 4l6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UuSIifT9AO5NwfwtPDpATP+HC4kjXBHk4dPGbaz5NOk=; b=fCCKFIcy0YbGw42jqoEWC9dXqhaFEJEHArBO4FgHCHpGhFQLbgFbnmJqpfKxhh4fo/ DRb0qJzkZBH0xp5uDjS9Gkl9vcOut6gyoUVkWCM31dpot97HG8LmjYd1TqeGf9Ts5iSY 75+UX7w8J3h/CjcH0XL5YrfO2GbwufzqKF1zjkOQC1B8VQt392Tr+tFSA4nxqZYzaJ4E Adz7T8XN9W6NzsJxUjZV03lG2laPzmS+kjzpHQsb6v2QW/1ZvCGYAzI1thpgedr/HQEU LwgXFuHWPTHsIwTxDsLQhe0ZrAqbUmmz8uuuOuSpkXjf086+YmjqgE6K4FsXpfHj6AbA mtxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX49/5jRjOtYOQWJtqeTmGFkUXM7aTbH+7WavQmGs03EQqxaIuNT mjii7RIDqkYXBhEkfxI4E2ymLD5p X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYBKDgIZT8wyKruRwxcWK+QXyqct5YK+HpvotgE7aSnuX4n1jsG9VvOiq5J2fb18k4BiRrerg== X-Received: by 10.200.8.11 with SMTP id u11mr39367349qth.315.1511426955663; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc.farhan.codes ([2001:470:8:209::dead:c0de]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o57sm12482668qtf.53.2017.11.23.00.49.13 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:49:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <20171123030402.GA79380@night.db.net> From: Farhan Khan Message-ID: <26834e84-cd88-cafb-ea0a-3d03572bf252@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:49:13 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171123030402.GA79380@night.db.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:49:17 -0000 Hi all, I suggest removing fortune(6) from base. It is essentially a tweak and best left for FreeBSD derivatives (GhostBSD, TrueOS, etc), not something for base. It seems inappropriate for servers. In the mean time, I would suggest having it be a symlink to /bin/true or display a message telling users to remove it. Then remove it entirely in 13-STABLE. If people want it, have it live on as a port/pkg. The same with games in general. On 11/22/2017 10:04 PM, Diane Bruce wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 06:48:48PM -0800, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: >> On 2017-11-22 18:23, Chris H wrote: >>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 08:29:46 -0800 "Benno Rice" said >> >>>> With the removal of the fortune datfiles I think it’s time to have a >>>> discussion about fortune(6). >> >>> I'd like to suggest that fortune be re-instated, using FreeBSD tips as the >>> default. > > Please no. No no and no. This is the first irritation I remove when > I get a new system up. Next thing I know you'all will give me CLIPPY > flashbacks. > > And pink polka dots with blue background. Ooooooo la-la!! > > - Diane >