From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 23 00:49:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C7316A492; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg.lane@internode.on.net) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502D845A6D; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:47:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from greg.lane@internode.on.net) Received: from router.lane.family (ozlane.net [150.101.115.95]) by smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k5MNlYPs000872; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:17:34 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from greg.lane@internode.on.net) Received: from router.lane.family (localhost.lane.family [127.0.0.1]) by router.lane.family (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5MNlUYh009231; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:47:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gjl103@router.lane.family) Received: (from gjl103@localhost) by router.lane.family (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5MNlUtk009230; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:47:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gjl103) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:47:30 +1000 From: Greg Lane To: pete wright Message-ID: <20060622234730.GA8950@router.lane.family> References: <20060622075236.GA95258@router.lane.family> <200606221129.19239.syjef@mdanderson.org> <20060622212119.GA7232@router.lane.family> <57d710000606221506s7b1c3f99g3c748e19c37c59e9@mail.gmail.com> <20060622230005.GA8445@router.lane.family> <57d710000606221615s4138166bma64b9bf0e686d2d5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57d710000606221615s4138166bma64b9bf0e686d2d5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does anyone run VNC with 64-bit FreeBSD (amd64)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: greg.lane@internode.on.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:49:41 -0000 On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 04:15:47PM -0700, pete wright wrote: > hmm, so there is no way to run the app's which are not 64bit clean in > 32bit mode in your environment? I did test one of them. It works, but I don't have time to mess with all of them, and finding the 32-bit libraries and putting them in the right place took me forever. I am afraid I am not a great programmer... However, I can quickly do a reinstall safely since I have a recent backup and all my /data and /home file systems are on separate disks I can just unplug. It comes down to a "how much time do I have to spare issue" and in the end the machine has to be back up today. I already have my own "instant-server" meta-port that installs all my standard ports. It only takes a couple of hours and I can do some other work while I wait. > >> Also, if you are > >> running a Unix like OS why use VNC? You can achive %90 of the same > >> features (with less of a memory/cpu impact) by running X apps > >> remotely. > > > >What about the other 10%? We use VNC because it saves state > >for those of my users who work from multiple locations, at home, > >at work and some are even based overseas. They don't want to > >restart up to 20 windows every time they logon. Remote access > >in this form is essential for their productivity. > > > > screen? > /usr/port/sysutils/screen My users need up to 20 instances of a graphical analysis package which has a text-based control window that spawns two graphical windows. They run a window manager with 24 virtual desktops, each running an instance of this program. As much as I love screen (I use it constantly for sysadmin-type work and I have mutt running constantly on one of my "screen"s), it doesn't quite fulfill our needs for this task. > I hope this is taken as friendly advice to save you work.... No drama! Friendly advice is always gratefully received. Especially if it is aimed at saving me work! Unfortunately I think rolling back the OS is the least work for me at this point in time. Thanks again, I do appreciate the advice. Greg