From owner-freebsd-security Tue Jun 12 14: 3:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2673537B411 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:03:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5att.ericy.com [138.85.92.13]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5CL2U809686; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:02:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5CL2SR15639; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f5CL2RG03287; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:02:26 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MY4P5S0P; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:02:20 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Jamie Norwood Cc: Garrett Wollman , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B268359.70202@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:02:17 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: IPFW almost works now. References: <657B20E93E93D4118F9700D0B73CE3EA0166D97D@goofy.epylon.lan> <20010612152856.A72299@mushhaven.net> <3B267827.5090002@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010612162749.A73655@mushhaven.net> <200106122044.QAA93356@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20010612164916.A73904@mushhaven.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jamie Norwood wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:44:02PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > >>< said: >>Balderdash! HTTP and TCP both send files over identical TCP >>connections, which makes them equally efficient. There really is no >>reason for FTP to continue to exist (but yet it does). Actually... > OK, even not arguing the point, they are still quite different applications. This is it. The only reason why FTP still exists is because there is no "standard" command-line HTTP client that can be used as an FTP client. Same thing on the server side. Although you have mod_put for apache. ;) > FTP still very much serves a purpose. For one thing, uploading via HTTP is > excessively non-trivial. Why? Because (almost) no software was written with that application in mind. While I would gladly let FTP die in favor of a cleaner (HTTP) and more secure (HTTPS) alternative, it does indeed serve a purpose: legacy. A. -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message