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Date:      Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:02:17 -0400
From:      "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" <Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca>
To:        Jamie Norwood <mistwolf@mushhaven.net>
Cc:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IPFW almost works now.
Message-ID:  <3B268359.70202@lmc.ericsson.se>
References:  <657B20E93E93D4118F9700D0B73CE3EA0166D97D@goofy.epylon.lan> <20010612152856.A72299@mushhaven.net> <3B267827.5090002@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010612162749.A73655@mushhaven.net> <200106122044.QAA93356@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20010612164916.A73904@mushhaven.net>

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Jamie Norwood wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:44:02PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> 
>><<On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:27:49 -0400, Jamie Norwood <mistwolf@mushhaven.net> said:

>>Balderdash!  HTTP and TCP both send files over identical TCP
>>connections, which makes them equally efficient.  There really is no
>>reason for FTP to continue to exist (but yet it does).


Actually...

 
> OK, even not arguing the point, they are still quite different applications.


This is it. The only reason why FTP still exists is because there is no 
"standard" command-line HTTP client that can be used as an FTP client.

Same thing on the server side. Although you have mod_put for apache. ;)

> FTP still very much serves a purpose. For one thing, uploading via HTTP is
> excessively non-trivial. 


Why? Because (almost) no software was written with that application in mind.

While I would gladly let FTP die in favor of a cleaner (HTTP) and more 
secure (HTTPS) alternative, it does indeed serve a purpose: legacy.

A.
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