From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 23:41:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C2A16A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38D543D1D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i237evhD025258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:40:57 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i237ev8b025257; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:40:57 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:40:57 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Mark Sams Message-ID: <20040303074057.GE96929@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Mark Sams , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040303064654.21529.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u5E4XgoOPWr4PD9E" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040303064654.21529.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world question on remote dedicated server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 07:41:06 -0000 --u5E4XgoOPWr4PD9E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:46:54PM +1100, Mark Sams wrote: > I am thinking of getting a FreeBSD dedicated server > that I will only have ssh access to. What is the > normal procedure of keeping up to date with kernel > changes when you do not have console access?=20 The usual procedure is to get console access. The cheapest and easiest way of doing that is to use a null-modem cable to connect the serial port to a neighbouring machine and run tip(1) or some other terminal emulator there. If you haven't got another machine handy, you might be able to use a modem to provide yourself with a remote console -- shades of the days of big-iron mainframe type systems. =20 > Is it possible to drop into single user mode remotely? > Or is single user mode not necessary for make > installkernel and the like? Does: Getting into single user mode remotely is easy. It's the getting out that's hard. =20 > buildworld / buildkernel / installkernel > reboot then=20 > installworld / mergemaster=20 If you're going to do this at all, it's probably better to save the reboot until after all of the installworld/installkernel/mergemaster steps. =20 > work while connected through ssh? You certainly can do this, and the vast majority of the time it will work OK. However, if things don't go smoothly you're going to be left up a gum tree with a non-working server and no way to recover or back-out changes. Whether that's an acceptable risk is a judgement call you'll have to make. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --u5E4XgoOPWr4PD9E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFARYwJdtESqEQa7a0RAvAVAJ42F/lNYIOxsIsjVf1dBY4rd+CiOgCfW/Ut wkdrbjtg0zU/21LBqTv30uk= =6m9+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u5E4XgoOPWr4PD9E--