From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 20:50:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECBBE2BE; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 940613FB; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8SKo3EA052909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:50:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s8SKo2IV052906; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:50:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:50:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gavin Atkinson Subject: Re: WiFi 802.11/ac PCIe supported adaptor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20140927143830.1d25968f.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20140927222208.GA20243@e-new.0x20.net> <20140928080643.1b5c991b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <5427A8C5.1010703@freebsd.org> <20140928113510.452dc9f0.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:50:03 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Current , "O. Hartmann" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:50:06 -0000 On Sun, 28 Sep 2014, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Networking wasn't an issue for me for years, but now, sitting on a pile of neat new >> hardware of which FreeBSD can not make any serious use, let me rethink. Luckily, The >> Lenovo laptops have a mini PCIe WiFi NIC - if I'm willing to follow FreeBSDs agony I'm >> able to swap the NIC with a piece of hardware that is supported. But it is additional > > Unfortunately, many Lenovo laptops lock the BIOS down in such a way that > they won't boot without the NIC they were shipped with :( Well, or a short list of approved Lenovo-branded cards. In the past, Lenovo (or IBM) has supplied Atheros cards. The trick will be finding that list and identifying the chipsets on each. There are also unofficial BIOS modifications to remove the limits. >> it is also due to a bad politics. nVidia, for instance, offers a BLOB for their GPUs. >> Yeah! But no OpenCL support. AMD offers nothing but promises and their efforts regarding >> opensource drivers is a pity. AMD has actually supported the open Radeon driver, both with programming information and (I think) employing developers to work on it.