From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 10:52:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA5437B401 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2320543FB1 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:52:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h4UHqUD02899; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:52:30 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: Rich Morin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:52:31 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200305301004.39445.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305301052.31015.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: Boot problem: "ata0: resetting devices" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 17:52:34 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2003 10:25 am, Rich Morin wrote: > At 10:04 AM -0700 5/30/03, Kent Stewart wrote: > >No, you didn't understand. The ATA cards appear like a scsi to the bios. > >To boot from an add in ATA card, you have to choose scsi boot. > > I'll look into this. However, I haven't seen any way to request this > in the SETUP screens. Anything I should look for? No, idea. The older machines could all boot from scsi but my in memory boot experience is only with P-II or IIIs and AMD Athlon's or better. These systems have scsi as a defined boot parameter. I had something like a KT7A that was part of the flawed Southbridge set and I had it using an ATA addin card. The mobo eventually died. My systems typically have one HD per controller. They have 2 hooked up to the mobo and 2 to an addin. My buildworld speeds vary as much as 50% or more depending on the setup. > > >You lose a lot of speed. My new ATA cards are all UDMA-133. Dma transfers > > are always faster. PIO is set at something like 16MB/s. You only get so > > many milliseconds of time for a each transfer block and dma is always > > faster. > > So, it's definitely worth pursuing. > My definition of speed is a concept based on how long it takes for the prompt to return after I press the enter key. A fast HD helps. This would be especially true if you were following something other than a release because a buildworld can take place much faster. Installing from a UDMA rated CD-ROM is also much faster but that is also another parameter that you have to add to /boot/loader.conf.. BNW, the parameter name is the same as the depricated sysctl variables but the value has to be quoted ("). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html