From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 8 17:47:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DB737B401 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D4E43ED8 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0497.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.242] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18WRmy-00025r-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 17:47:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3E1CD433.5666E908@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 17:45:23 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JacobRhoden Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panic on 4.7-STABLE to 5.0 RC2 upgrade. References: <3.0.32.20030108092801.01faf100@mail.wavefire.com> <3E1C708A.39A5CFE0@mindspring.com> <200301091020.34273.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4cfc2e4079f0305bba32844464e36d1ac350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org JacobRhoden wrote: > On Thursday 09 January 2003 05:40, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Because RC2 was not tagged, because We Fear CVS Tags(tm), you > > will need to use a date in order to create your own RC2. > > "We Fear CVS Tags(tm)"? Why would anyone fear that? Tags end up touching every file, so CVSup's get relatively expensive following a tag. Basically, every file gets touched, and so people are loathe to tag. For something as important as a release candidate, my personal take would be "eat the overhead"; the system is (theoretically) in code freeze at that point, so the overhead would be less painful. This is not the general consensus of project management, though, so tags are reserved for releases. It's actually much less of a problem, now that release engineering is done in P4, following a date tag. If you are talking about snapshots, then I definitely agree: no tags; the overhead is just to high. A checkout by date, followed by a build, is enough that it can be recreated, no problem. Going back to the original problem, I don't know if there is an ISO disk #2 in the RC2 set; if there is, it should be relatively easy to download that, instead. That will get you the sources to the RC2 in /usr/src, and you could build your own release with a modified config file from that, which would get you the rest of the way. You could do the same thing, by extracting the source images off the disk #1, too, but it would be a little more work to do the cross-build (as noted by Chris Provenzo, you need a fairly recent 4.x in order to build 5.x, even though, in theory, that should not be necessary). The original poster is bouncing around 4.7-STABLE, so that should not be a problem, FWTW. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message