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Date:      Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:55:24 -0700
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
To:        John.Kitz@xs4all.nl, "'Ganbold Tsagaankhuu'" <ganbold@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: When first hooking up a cubieboard2...
Message-ID:  <1481752524.1889.422.camel@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <001701d25654$111d4c20$3357e460$@Kitz@xs4all.nl>
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On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 22:50 +0100, John W. Kitz wrote:
> Ian,
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 20:34 +0100, John W. Kitz wrote:
> > > 
> > > Gents,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 17:26 +0100, John W. Kitz wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ganbold,
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:22 AM, John W. Kitz <John.Kitz@
> > > > > > > xs4a 
> > > > > > > ll.n
> > > > > > > l> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > When attaching a new cubieboard2 to a FreeBSD system for
> > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > first time I
> > > > > > > get:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "ugen1.2: <USB Developer> at usbus1
> > > > > > > umass0: <Mass Storage> on usbus1
> > > > > > > umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4000
> > > > > > > umass0:4:0: Attached to scbus4
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0
> > > > > > > da0: <USB 2.0 USB Flash Driver 0100> Removable Direct
> > > > > > > Access
> > > > > > > SCSI-2
> > > > > > > device
> > > > > > > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
> > > > > > > da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY,
> > > > > > > Medium 
> > > > > > > not present
> > > > > > > da0: quirks=0x2<NO_6_BYTE>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 1
> > > > > > > da1: <USB 2.0 USB Flash Driver 0100> Removable Direct
> > > > > > > Access
> > > > > > > SCSI-2
> > > > > > > device
> > > > > > > da1: 40.000MB/s transfers
> > > > > > > da1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY,
> > > > > > > Medium 
> > > > > > > not present
> > > > > > > da1: quirks=0x2<NO_6_BYTE>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 2
> > > > > > > da2: <USB 2.0 USB Flash Driver 0100> Removable Direct
> > > > > > > Access
> > > > > > > SCSI-2
> > > > > > > device
> > > > > > > da2: 40.000MB/s transfers
> > > > > > > da2: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY,
> > > > > > > Medium 
> > > > > > > not present
> > > > > > > da2: quirks=0x2<NO_6_BYTE>"
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > While looking at the hardware schematic, am I correct in 
> > > > > > > assuming that
> > > > > > > da0 represents the SD card slot, and da1 and da2
> > > > > > > represent USB 
> > > > > > > port 1 and 2 respectively?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I don't remember the details, but there are 2 USB host
> > > > > > > ports 
> > > > > > > exposed on the board, and 1 USB otg port.
> > > > > > > SD would be mmcsd0.
> > > > > Well not the answer I was looking for, but this is what I got
> > > > > when 
> > > > > attaching the OTG port of a new cubieboard2 (NOT in FEL mode)
> > > > > to a 
> > > > > USB port on >an AMD64 / FreeBSD system. Since the messages
> > > > > all 
> > > > > seem to refer to removable storage devices attached to the
> > > > > same 
> > > > > bus on which the storage medium itself doesn't seem to be
> > > > > present, 
> > > > > resulting in the devices being reported as not ready, the
> > > > > only 
> > > > > thing I could imagine were the SD card slot (I believe using
> > > > > a 
> > > > > converter it is possible to connect that to a USB port as
> > > > > well) 
> > > > > and the two other (i.e. non
> > > > > OTG)
> > > > > USB ports.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Looking into this a bit further is the difference maybe the
> > > > > result 
> > > > > of a different way of enumerating devices on Linux then on 
> > > > > FreeBSD?
> > > > > 
> > > > > If not, what conclusion should I draw from this?
> > > > > 
> > > > Your question actually doesn't make much sense.  I think the
> > > > best 
> > > > answer
> > > > possible about what you see when you connect a running
> > > > 
> > > > cubieboard2 to a freebsd host is something like...
> > > > 
> > > > What you see is entirely dependent on what software is running
> > > > on 
> > > > the
> > > cubieboard when you connect it, and questions about what shows up
> > > and 
> > > why > should be addressed to whomever wrote that software.
> > > 
> > > I'm not referring to what I see on the cubieboard2, but as I
> > > mentioned 
> > > to what I'm seeing on the console of an AMD64 / FreeBSD system
> > > to 
> > > which I'm attaching it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If freebsd is what's running on the board, then this is the
> > > right 
> > > place to
> > > ask, but you'd have to provide more info about exactly what
> > > you're > 
> > > running (where you got the image or how you built it).  If
> > > you're 
> > > running some linux image then the builder/distributor of that
> > > image 
> > > could answer >the questions.
> > > 
> > > The board is straight out of the box brand spanking new, so
> > > AFAIK 
> > > there's nothing running on it yet.
> > > 
> > > Jk.
> > 
> > What you are seeing on the freebsd console is the devices that the
> software running on the cubieboard provides.  Even fresh out of the
> box, it
> is > running something (presumably some linux or android distro that
> gets
> put into the nand flash at the factory).
> 
> > 
> > This has nothing to do with freebsd.  You'd see the same thing if
> > you
> plugged it into a windows system.
> 
> Thanks for pointing that out; I was already aware of that, but my
> question
> was: which storage devices on the board do da0, da1 and da2 represent
> 'as
> seen', if you will, from and on the FreeBSD system to which it is
> attached?
> 
> Regards, Jk.
> 
> 

And my point (which if you haven't gotten it by now I'm not sure
there's any value in my repeating it again, but here goes...) is that
this is not a freebsd question and I don't understand why you think
anyone on a freebsd mailing list would be able to answer.

-- Ian




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