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Date:      Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:26:08 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        <bcohen@bpecreative.com>, "freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: FreeBSD Firewall vs. Black Ice
Message-ID:  <001001c0a231$a5e1a6a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <NNEMIHKLBKHCIJHJJFGPMEFEDMAA.bcohen@bpecreative.com>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bob Cohen
>Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 8:29 PM
>To: freebsd-questions
>Subject: FreeBSD Firewall vs. Black Ice
>
>
>Is the FreeBSD firewall more secure than using Black Ice.

YES, absolutely no question about it, and here is why:

Black Ice's code is not open - thus there's no peer-review.

FreeBSD's code IS open - thus peer review.  It's like asking
which set of scientific research studies is more reliable -
the set that was developed by one group that only publishes
results and not methodology, or the set that was developed by
a group that not only publishes results but the entire 
methodology, so that the study can be reviewed by the rest of the
scientific community.

HOWEVER - there's a catch, just like in everything else -
see below:

>This might seem like an apples and oranges question except I
>just got a cable modem, which is currently connected to a
>win2k box.  I've been using Black Ice's Network ice as a
>firewall but am not confident that its working because I
>received some intrusions yesterday and now some files seem
>to be disappearing.  I already have a copy of FreeBSD
>installed on one of the computers in my office, which I
>intended to set up as a firewall/gateway.  Being far too
>busy, I opted for Black Ice as it seemed to provide a quick
>and easy solution.
>

There's nothing wrong with quick and easy in the hands of 
someone experienced with the product.  After all, if my job
was setting up security firewalls (it isn't) then I'd be
doing something wrong if setting up a firewall wasn't quick
and easy to do - for me, that is.

>As a result of those intrusions I'm feeling the need for as
>robust a barrier between my network and the internet as
>possible.  Will FreeBSD help me accomplish my goal?
>

If you are more experienced with FreeBSD than Black Ice, then
you can accomplish this.  However, if you are not experienced
with _either_ of them, then it's very unlikely that you will be
able to set up a robust security barrier with either of them
until you GET experienced.

Many people will say that a firewall set up by an inexperienced
person is worse than none at all, because it gives the inexperienced
person a secure feeling when no real security actually exists.

So, what the catch is, is that what really matters is which product
do you want to invest the time into?  If it's Black Ice and you invest
the time into it, you should be able to gain the experience needed
to make it and keep it secure.  If it's FreeBSD and you invest
the time into it, you should be able to gain the experience needed
to make it and keep it secure.

However, if your not willing to invest the time into either, then
you should look at paying someone who has the experience to do this
for you.  One advantage of using FreeBSD is that the FreeBSD server
CAN be remotely administered.  You could, for example, set up your
FreeBSD system then get a FreeBSD consultant to ssh into your server
and set a really tight access list for you.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com

>Bob Cohen
>bcohen@bpecreative.com
>
>
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