From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 15:05:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B368E784; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pmta2.delivery1.ore.mailhop.org (pmta2.delivery1.ore.mailhop.org [54.149.155.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C17D103; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.ore.mailhop.org (172.31.36.112) by pmta2.delivery1.ore.mailhop.org id hsntro20u50t; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:55:19 +0000 (envelope-from ) Received: from c-73-34-117-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([73.34.117.227] helo=ilsoft.org) by smtp2.ore.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1YOSVG-0001Zo-52; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:54:58 +0000 Received: from revolution.hippie.lan (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t1JEsq5o053248; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:54:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP X-Originating-IP: 73.34.117.227 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@duocircle.com (see https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18nka7vR6dXtQXwG9GKE3yX Message-ID: <1424357692.1108.18.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: default pager (csh) From: Ian Lepore To: Franco Fichtner Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:54:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4F3A7029-EF19-40E0-B859-E169684A3B36@lastsummer.de> References: <54E5232F.3060409@delphij.net> <021CBC62-4CC6-4137-897E-FE482139E09B@westryn.net> <54E539F3.2070506@egr.msu.edu> <4F3A7029-EF19-40E0-B859-E169684A3B36@lastsummer.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.8 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Davide Italiano , FreeBSD Hackers , Adam McDougall , freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:05:13 -0000 On Thu, 2015-02-19 at 07:46 +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: > > On 19 Feb 2015, at 02:27, Davide Italiano wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Adam McDougall wrote: > >> The PAGER was less for about half a year and reverted. Please see: > >> > >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=242643 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > OK, I think this ends the discussion =) > > Nope, not good enough. The way I see it we achieved nothing > despite the fact that several bugs are on the table. > > Now that we all agree more(1) is the way to go, can we please fix > colouring and the pager quit issue for man pages using sensible > options in more(1)? > > Other's should speak up for their woes with the FreeBSD defaults > too. The defaults are supposed to be the best we can do. Right > now, we can actually do better. :) I sure hope "fix coloring" is shorthand for "don't you dare turn on any of that color crap without the user's permission." -- Ian