From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 23 11:36:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A1937B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from valemount.com (mailgate.valemount.com [209.53.76.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1617243E31 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@valemount.com) Received: from tonyxp (forums.valemount.com) [209.53.76.17] by valemount.com [209.53.76.66] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.7.R) for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:35:49 -0700 Message-ID: <0ec501c23277$d14d0d20$114c35d1@tonyxp> From: "Tony Toole" To: , References: <002401c23245$1ced2130$0100a8c0@erikpc> <3D3D6F67.5010508@ucsd.edu> <001001c2325c$42c59420$8a4c35d1@master> <001801c2326b$f1c98300$0200000a@erikpc> <0e6e01c2326c$dee98d60$114c35d1@tonyxp> <002001c23276$0eb66780$0200000a@erikpc> Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:36:11 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 209.53.76.17 X-Return-Path: tony@valemount.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tony@valemount.com Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Depending on your situation this setup will work fine: {internet} -- [fxp0 wi0 (AP)] -- ( ~~ ) -- Laptop While this will not, because the second (clinet) box cannot be bridged. {internet} -- [fxp0 wi0 (AP)] -- ( ~~ ) -- [wi0 (Infra) fxp0] -- {internal network} Thanks, Tony Toole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:23 AM Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > Oh. Well I'm only going to have one AP in this case, if building an AP is > the only solution to bridge the networks. So, I just really need to be sure > about this, the AP/Bridge can work just as a regular bridge? All broadcasts > and such gets passed through and can answer back? (My scenario is to connect > a wired LAN with a wireless LAN, and make it look like one big network, > because of Windows 2000 Active Directory domains and such) > > Erik. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Toole" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > Yes. You have to remember however that having a card acting as an AP > means > > other clients can connect to it, however your card on AP mode cannot > connect > > to another AP unless both units support wi's WDS implementation (does it > > have one?). > > > > Thanks, > > Tony Toole > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" > > To: "Tony Toole" ; > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:11 AM > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > > > > So, If I buy a new card wich has the Prism2/Prism2.5 chipset, it can > work > > as > > > an AP for me -and- bridge in my 100mbit ethernet LAN? So, to say it the > > dumb > > > way, it will appear as a whole network (bridge) > > > > > > Erik. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tony Toole" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:18 PM > > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > > > > > > > The man page for wi(4) shows how to set up a bridge, but the card must > > be > > > in > > > > pseudo-AP (HostAP) mode, which voids out Orinoco cards like you said. > > > > > > > > Tony Toole > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Eric Hedström" > > > > To: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" > > > > Cc: ; > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:59 AM > > > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Erik, > > > > > Assuming the wi(4) page is correct when it says Prism only, that > rules > > > > > out your Orinoco card in any case. > > > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > Erik Paulsen Skålerud wrote: > > > > > > Hello. I'm a little confused here. > > > > > > I want to bridge my wireless card (Orinoco/Lucent Silver 11mbit) > > with > > > my > > > > > > LAN-adapter (fxp0). > > > > > > > > > > > > When I read the wi(4), allmost at the end of the configuration > > > examples > > > > it > > > > > > says: > > > > > > > > > > > > Create a host-based wireless bridge to fxp0 (Prism only): > > > > > > Add BRIDGE to the kernel config. > > > > > > # ifconfig wi0 inet up ssid my_ap mediaopt hostap > > > > > > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge=1 > > > > > > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge_cfg="wi0 fxp0" > > > > > > # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 > > > > > > This will give you approximately the same functionality as an > > > > access > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > And, when I read the bridge(4) manual page, it says: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bridging requires interfaces to be put in promiscuous mode, > and > > > > > > transmit > > > > > > packets with Ethernet source addresses. Some interfaces > (e.g. > > > > wi(4)) > > > > > > do > > > > > > not support this functionality. Also, bridging is not > > compatible > > > > with > > > > > > interfaces which use hardware loopback, because there is no > way > > > to > > > > tell > > > > > > locally generated packets from externally generated ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > So. Where do I stand? Can it do bridging in FreeBSD or not? I > tried > > to > > > > make > > > > > > it work, both in FreeBSD and Windows XP (yes, I know.) without any > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > While searching on mailinglists, I see several people saying that > > you > > > > need a > > > > > > binary firmware wich costs money so that the cards can work with > > > > bridging.. > > > > > > the reason would be that the manufactors of these chipsets wants > to > > > make > > > > > > money on selling licenses to companies who want an AP. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've also heard a rumour that ng_bridge(4)/netgraph can do > bridging > > > with > > > > > > wi(4)-devices. Is this true? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all help, Erik. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message