From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 24 16:22:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mars.aspenworks.net (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A6315984 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:22:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from aspenworks.com (qlv101.sopris.net [208.44.82.101] (may be forged)) by mars.aspenworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA41468; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:52:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <388CD799.7B968CB5@aspenworks.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:52:09 -0700 From: Alex Huppenthal Reply-To: alex@aspenworks.com Organization: Aspenworks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrew@pubnix.net Cc: Mitch Collinsworth , Sean Michael Whipkey , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Network renumbering (Yack!) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I totally agree. It was decided that we'd take our time with the cutover, low priority.. It was a mess, dual controllers, dual network switches, constant interdependancy interaction between the network numbers.. The right way to do it is to renumber the network, route the two sets of numbers, cutover everything and everyone. All within a few weeks time. Much much more cost effective and better overall. It's been going on for over 6 months.. I'm hoping this last push will have it completed in a few weeks. -Alex Andrew Webster wrote: > > YUCK, been there, done that. It was a "medium to low" priority project > that laster over 12 months. In reflection, it was a mistake, and should > have been done at a very high level as quickly as possible. > > One think that you need to be aware of (yes I know this is completely > irrelevant to the ISP mailing list), is that if you have any NT boxes > running WINS, you will have BIG problems with multiple IPs on these > machines. > You'll need to identify these systems and cut them over immediately and/or > setup replicas of these systems on old/new networks to ease the > transition. > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > > > > > >daniel B wrote: > > >> I dreaded this moment would come but I am in a position that I need to > > >> change upstream and all DNS info is going to change, customer workstations > > >> may have to be reconfigured ... > > >> Since I haven't done this before what is the least painful way to handle > > >> this task? is there a documented procedure/how-to somewhere? > > >> Realy don't want to start guessing. > > > > > >We're in the middle of that right now, and all I can really think of to > > >say is..."Sorry." :-( > > > > > >It's rough. We started by giving our servers multiple IP addresses, one > > >old and one new. We then moved our customers over slowly - first all of > > >the static IP addresses, and then each phone number depending on how it > > >was tied to a router. We hired an outside consultant to do some of our > > >network customers, which was a mistake. > > > > > >You just have to be patient...:) > > > > I nominate this line for understatement of the month! :-) > > > > Another thing to consider it taking this as an opportunity to start > > using DHCP for all non-server systems. You might even want to use > > it on some of your servers, though I haven't felt that brave yet. > > This seems like a good idea even if you're not using dynamic addresses > > since it puts all the network configuration info in one place where > > it's easy to change when you need to. > > > > -Mitch > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > --- > Andrew Webster FULL SERVICE ISP > President http://www.pubnix.net > PubNIX Inc. Access: PPP - SHELL - UUCP - VPN - ... > P.O. Box 147 Hosting: WWW - Email - DB - Your Servers - ... > C.S.L. QC H4V 2Y3 tel: 514-990-5911 fax: 514-990-9443 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Alex Huppenthal \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ alex@aspenworks.com \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message