From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Thu Nov 29 19:16:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E74A114A331 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 19:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob05.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob05.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1A87E777 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 19:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail01pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.35]) by atl4mhob05.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wATJGLOa004051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:16:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 2540 invoked by uid 0); 29 Nov 2018 19:16:21 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.118.245.214 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 29 Nov 2018 19:16:21 -0000 Subject: Re: revision 341104 quite unusable To: Mark Millard Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML , Paul Mather , Justin Hibbits References: <62bd5352-6eb5-ea4c-fd5b-fd4d1a35186b@blastwave.org> <7534F42F-5BFA-4C94-B387-A42F10B5B389@yahoo.com> <0a223db3-8c88-faa9-5cfe-983ada996d4e@blastwave.org> <70945861-107c-b271-93fe-110127d90ba4@blastwave.org> <554F1239-57F9-462D-918D-6E1FD8ABF9D6@yahoo.com> <5D62A1CD-8479-47F8-8CE7-D4CBC09D996C@yahoo.com> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: <303cf3cd-25b1-ad86-6dc9-513af8f8aadf@blastwave.org> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:16:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5D62A1CD-8479-47F8-8CE7-D4CBC09D996C@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AB1A87E777 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.56)[0.558,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.16)[-0.159,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.11)[0.114,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[43.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.03)[ipnet: 209.17.112.0/21(0.14), asn: 19871(0.11), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[43.115.17.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 19:16:30 -0000 On 11/29/18 2:32 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > > > On 2018-Nov-28, at 14:50, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> . . . >> Not a problem. As Paul Mather was very cool to point out this old ppc64 >> PowerMac G5 is a tier 2 type platform with tier whenever type real world >> expectations. I think a Power9 server is really needed but one step at >> a time here. > > powerpc families are all tier 2, including Power9. > For now at least ;-) >> . . . >> OKay well, as I was saying at lung exhaustive length, I have yet to see >> anything build and boot other than the RC2 dvd. At least in a natural >> way. > > > And you started from a context that was observed to be a problem > before you even had started (as far as I can tell). If you want > things to be more likely to work directly, you would back up to > source vintages from before the problem was observed initially for > hardware contexts similar to yours. > > You could always tackle the later issues later. I have been working directly from the RC2 install which does boot and run with a single cpu core. Then dragging in the src and doing a build seems to make sense but to skip over all that fuss I can drag down bits from https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/head/r341253/powerpc/powerpc64/ and see what happens. Dennis