From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 16: 9:57 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 4 16:09:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA13637B400; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from chris ([63.203.71.212]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G6N00BMBX5J8M@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:56:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 16:02:48 -0800 From: Chris Andrews Subject: RE: Please change this In-reply-to: <20010104184645.A1664@envy.geekhouse.net> To: jim@osd.bsdi.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@Livecast.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Thanks for your response. I did look at the page prior to sending the email. Unfortunately, search engines and the internet in general does not categorize these things - copy is copy. And I have to presume that whoever "owns" the site controls the copy. My other choice was not to send the email to you at all, and we are held to some strict guidelines as owners of the trademark in terms of working to contain usage to appropriate usage. We "do have a clue" here, but it is a challenging task to have a goal of clarity in something as cloudy as the Internet. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Jim Mock [mailto:jim@osd.bsdi.com] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:47 PM To: Chris Andrews Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please change this On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 at 15:31:50 -0800, Chris Andrews wrote: > TO: WEBMASTER OR PERSON WHO CONTROLS YOUR WEBSITE > > It has come to our attention that you are using the term "Livecast" > on the page referenced below, and possibly other pages. > > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2000/freebsd-multimedia/20000123.freebs d-multimedia.html Did you even bother looking at it? If you did, you'd notice the URL you specify above is to a mailing list archive. The word "Livecast" is mentioned because the poster says: news flash: I just got livecast to connect and remain connected with a Lvl: value indicating my audio level, this is unusual. > Livecast is a registered trademark that is owned by Livecast, Inc. We > would like to ask you to please change Livecast to a generic or > industry term such as "webcast" or "live webcast." So you're against people saying they have Livecast working? Heh. > Although this might seem like a minor matter to you, it is important > to us that the Livecast trademark be understood by the public in an > accurate manner. Your page gets referenced by search engines which can > confuse the public. We have had to continually police the use of > Livecast on the Internet, including recently filing a trademark > infringement lawsuit in federal court against CNN/SI. What does this have to do with the message? This tells me you didn't even bother looking at the page you referenced. > Please change this page(s) on your website, and if you would email me > back when the change is completed, I would appreciate it. If you also > re-submit your website to the major search engines, then that will > ensure that the public gets up-to-date content from your site when > they do searches. This is not part of the FreeBSD.org web site per se -- it is an archived email sent from a private individual to a mailing list. FreeBSD.org has no say over the content of the messages sent to its lists and has no way of preventing the word "livecast" from being mentioned in mail to its mailing lists. - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message