From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 26 07:36:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CD316A420; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B9E13C46E; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBQ7VNGm021122; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:31:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:35:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20071226.003547.-932932005.imp@bsdimp.com> To: mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200712260038.11546@aldan> References: <200712212341.44308@aldan> <200712221313.lBMDDx5M036478@lava.sentex.ca> <200712260038.11546@aldan> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb/umass, devfs: this sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:36:20 -0000 In message: <200712260038.11546@aldan> Mikhail Teterin writes: : If we want people to give FreeBSD a try in good faith, it is both profoundly : stupid and dishonest on our part to claim, we have a working USB-system... It : does not matter, how great our buffer-sharing VM is, if a home user can't : process their photos with a FreeBSD-powered computer. In an ideal world, it would be perfect. However, all the USB hardware I've recently purchased actually does work without a hitch on my FreeBSD system. Older card readers are more problematic. Rather than complain about the system, how about merging RELENG_7's usb stack to RELENG_6? Or fixing a few bugs from the PRs that are filed? I did my time in a big push for 7.0, maybe some other people can help out a little too? Warner