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And we can't have it without hardware assist... though you may be ok enough with a value from the rtc. There's work to pass the vale from the monotonicly increasing counter uefi provides. But not on all platforms. Warner 2 - Does anyone know how to fix "could not determine audit condition" > which I get whenever I try and login when it is multiuser? > (I can run single user, but since I can't login once it's multiuser?= ?) > > Thanks for any help with these, rick > > --00000000000041297e064e982383 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Apr 3, 2026, 7:05=E2=80= =AFPM Rick Macklem <rick.mackl= em@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I'm fiddling with a NFSv4 diskless root fs setup and I've run
into a couple of challenges.

1 - I need a value that will be different each time the machine boots.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I would normally use getboottime(), but for the NFS roo= t fs mount,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0it just returns 0.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Any ideas w.r.t. something I can acquire early in booti= ng that will
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0change each time the system is booted?
=

We don't have= this today. And we can't have it without hardware assist... though you= may be ok enough with a value from the rtc.

There's work to pass the vale from the monotonicly= increasing counter uefi provides. But not on all platforms.

Warner

2 - Does anyone know how to fix "could not determine audit condition&q= uot;
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0which I get whenever I try and login when it is multius= er?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(I can run single user, but since I can't login onc= e it's multiuser??)

Thanks for any help with these, rick

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