From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 25 14:21:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B75A0C; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37AFC2FF1; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-8-230-52.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.230.52] helo=damnhippie.dyndns.org) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VDbBp-000OyN-U0; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:21:14 +0000 Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r7PEL9v9050618; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 08:21:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Originating-IP: 24.8.230.52 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/1Gz/VK1ocXq4RluFl/ePH Subject: Re: GCC withdraw From: Ian Lepore To: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: References: <20130822200902.GG94127@funkthat.com> <105E26EE-8471-49D3-AB57-FBE2779CF8D0@FreeBSD.org> <5217413A.9080105@passap.ru> <20130823111647.GT2951@home.opsec.eu> <521745F2.8050607@passap.ru> <20130824115158.GA88999@zxy.spb.ru> <20130824154217.GE3796@zxy.spb.ru> <20130824224204.GH3796@zxy.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 08:21:09 -0600 Message-ID: <1377440469.1111.124.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , toolchain@FreeBSD.org, Boris Samorodov , FreeBSD Current , Slawa Olhovchenkov X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:21:15 -0000 On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 23:44 +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > On 24 Aug 2013, at 23:42, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > And i found PR about clang and mplayer: ports/176272 > > This PR contains log with build error log. > > Please file clang bugs at http://llvm.org/bugs/ > > David > And THIS is a major reason why FreeBSD needs a compiler in base instead of all tools being ports. The last thing we need is to start responding to every problem with "this is not my problem, go file a report upstream." If we're already doing it for the compiler that's supposed to be the new supported tool, how much worse will peoples' experience be when we assert no ownership or responsibility for a toolchain at all? -- Ian