From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 07:42:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA8D16A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:42:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from keylime.silverwraith.com (keylime.silverwraith.com [69.55.228.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D6043D3F for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:42:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists-freebsd@silverwraith.com) Received: from keylime.silverwraith.com ([69.55.228.10]) by keylime.silverwraith.com with esmtp (Exim 4.34; FreeBSD) id 1BnYDU-000Mb2-5q; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:42:12 -0700 Received: (from avleen@localhost)i6M7gBw8086863; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists-freebsd@silverwraith.com) X-Authentication-Warning: keylime.silverwraith.com: avleen set sender to lists-freebsd@silverwraith.com using -f Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:42:11 -0700 From: Avleen Vig To: "Devon H. O'Dell" Message-ID: <20040722074211.GL99978@silverwraith.com> References: <20040721124345.GB99978@silverwraith.com> <40FE66F7.2050006@sitetronics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40FE66F7.2050006@sitetronics.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -100.0 (---------------------------------------------------) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "keylime.silverwraith.com", hasmessageblock similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 02:52:07PM +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > I wholly disagree. I think using an excuse ``people will let everything > else do the work for them and nobody will ever learn'' to discourage the > development of automation tools is very poor. Try applying that argument > to any utility that you use. You'd have to write your own bloody > operating system because ``learning's bikeshed, so I suggest whoever came up > with the idea to put up or shut up. People are interested in solutions, > not suggestions. [...] Content analysis details: (-100.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Next Generation" kernel configuration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:42:15 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 02:52:07PM +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > I wholly disagree. I think using an excuse ``people will let everything > else do the work for them and nobody will ever learn'' to discourage the > development of automation tools is very poor. Try applying that argument > to any utility that you use. You'd have to write your own bloody > operating system because ``learning's in your best interest''. > I'm sure this will become another bikeshed, so I suggest whoever came up > with the idea to put up or shut up. People are interested in solutions, > not suggestions. You confuse automation, with simplification. Automation tools are good for frequently re-run tasks. How often do you recompile your kernel? .... exactly. -- Avleen Vig Systems Administrator Personal: www.silverwraith.com EFnet: irc.mindspring.com (Earthlink user access only)