From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 12 22:20:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 600DC70E; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0114.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC778691; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLUPR05CA0081.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.20.51) by CO1PR05MB444.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.73.140) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.81.19; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:04:32 +0000 Received: from BY2FFO11FD004.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c0c::185) by BLUPR05CA0081.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:855::51) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.81.19 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:04:32 +0000 Received: from P-EMF02-SAC.jnpr.net (66.129.239.16) by BY2FFO11FD004.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.1.14.158) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.10 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:04:31 +0000 Received: from magenta.juniper.net (172.17.27.123) by P-EMF02-SAC.jnpr.net (172.24.192.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:04:30 -0800 Received: from chaos.jnpr.net (chaos.jnpr.net [172.21.16.28]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id t1CM4TW20649; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:04:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjg@juniper.net) Received: from chaos (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chaos.jnpr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAED1580A3; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:04:29 -0800 (PST) To: Ian Lepore Subject: Re: [RFC] Removin the old make In-Reply-To: <1423609456.80968.32.camel@freebsd.org> References: <20150210223854.GT29891@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20150210224937.GE58387@eureka.lemis.com> <20150210225941.GU29891@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <1423609456.80968.32.camel@freebsd.org> Comments: In-reply-to: Ian Lepore message dated "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 16:04:16 -0700." From: "Simon J. Gerraty" X-Mailer: MH-E 8.0.3; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 22.3.1 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:04:29 -0800 Message-ID: <15509.1423778669@chaos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-EOPAttributedMessage: 0 Received-SPF: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning juniper.net discourages use of 66.129.239.16 as permitted sender) Authentication-Results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 66.129.239.16) smtp.mailfrom=sjg@juniper.net; freebsd.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none; X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:66.129.239.16; CTRY:US; IPV:NLI; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(24454002)(46102003)(57986006)(76176999)(62966003)(450100001)(106466001)(86362001)(117636001)(93886004)(110136001)(76506005)(558084003)(33716001)(105596002)(50986999)(77156002)(50226001)(47776003)(6806004)(2950100001)(92566002)(19580405001)(19580395003)(48376002)(77096005)(50466002)(87936001)(42262002)(62816006); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CO1PR05MB444; H:P-EMF02-SAC.jnpr.net; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO1PR05MB444; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004); SRVR:CO1PR05MB444; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0485417665 X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO1PR05MB444; X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2015 22:04:31.5501 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalAttributedTenantConnectingIp: TenantId=bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4; Ip=[66.129.239.16] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CO1PR05MB444 Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , arch@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:20:47 -0000 Ian Lepore wrote: > under bmake. It's especially annoying because :L is really common in > fmake and its meaning in bmake is all but useless. Actually it is very useful. eg. .if defined(NO_POSIX_SHELL) || ${type printf:L:sh:Mbuiltin} == ""