From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 20 02:47:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEF816A41F for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:47:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mail.localelinks.com (web.localelinks.com [64.39.75.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FA743D62 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:47:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-157-22-236.jan.bellsouth.net [70.157.22.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.localelinks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B472AD for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:47:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 8000361C21; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:47:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:47:11 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Bill Vermillion Message-ID: <20051220024711.GP63497@over-yonder.net> References: <20051220002815.GB15974@wjv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051220002815.GB15974@wjv.com> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11-fullermd.2 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrades X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:47:15 -0000 On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 07:28:15PM -0500 I heard the voice of Bill Vermillion, and lo! it spake thus: > > As to having one CVSsup on one machine and using nfs for the others > that is up to you. I did this for years. Saved bandwidth (and load on the cvsup servers), saved disk space, saved processor, and saved me headaches trying to keep track of what built when. If you've got a bunch of systems that are otherwise fairly identical anyway, I'd recommend it. > Where you can run into stale binaries are things from ports where > things change- and if you forget to perform portupgrade and just do > a new install. Sometimes locations change. Ironically enough, I just last month or so had a major problem with a stale binary. I tried for a week to upgrade something gnome-related (libgnomeprint, I think?), and it kept bombing out in the build with really weird errors. I finally tracked it down to its dependancy on bison, which port wasn't even installed. And it didn't install the port because it found /usr/bin/bison (datestamp Dec 30, 1999) and used it. So, yes, doing a `ls -lt` every once in a while is a good thing... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.