From owner-freebsd-toolchain@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 11 16:27:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: toolchain@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F011065675 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@freebsd.org) Received: from nm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 615878FC0A for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 16:27:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.56] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 16:27:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 16:27:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 29575.63693.bm@omp1056.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 35327 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Sep 2012 16:27:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347380827; bh=moeBshx9aC19G5pfbgDGKkipIRif1maLNusFDiwPYEA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B+G49Idfw2XguKh/unByHuu3VOHwLyM71rvuBvLesj62P/L8R3nIwEMsXfZ8XcUTK/LrY19SmjgEbUAK0hG+SqtU1jmt/ADApY1lbzEkVIhM8x+6kNIKXmeSGrgKDuAm2l8cJiiXwZyz5GAWd4pmPJh9wzq7ajQ0kGrGowYQlVk= X-YMail-OSG: usBEVWkVM1k8Fcw5A8CufeEwBknaw3Svznw74vB0LsYFEkR 2y7AoEsDkNNCAnBMg4pZeuz1XqhQ215v1igDauSZXutUSVVHhHu3OPkgUHTa N4pFOLIxQ.z7b2snSfeqHf24npSOI6NOv95wxL3ethaRqERLHH842.rK4MHm 5Jb5dJAmgDsG.43OyWta41ybeD614R9G15lLIONA0C3dVCSBgntqgM2MnNSm tKtE8qnhiFV_ByCfbfeejLVZmuFVJ5iJRSfDDzMoRk5zuO5hVDp6olSjG5r9 fgwfJD1E9o9oBZVSrNTVB8MF3oq2pB5CL6Y2uOTSHzSOIVegnMduldMHLcLi ebPu1bAtTTwWKGtRk4Fqu76TT3ba6oScJd9FIWbnK4z17VRpomOCBrX5nXim 0.DwdrQfjIP7Gj5bga28CKBRpVQYZZNeUpQbxCuuxH36rDHHHksCTzxmVQVv yUAukQbrrFq_LKL.ZDokF Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:27:07 PDT X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <20120910211207.GC64920@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20120911104518.GF37286@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20120911120649.GA52235@freebsd.org> <20120911122122.GJ37286@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Message-ID: <1347380827.22767.YahooMailNeo@web113519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:27:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Giffuni To: Konstantin Belousov , Roman Divacky In-Reply-To: <20120911122122.GJ37286@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "toolchain@freebsd.org" , "current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th X-BeenThere: freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pedro Giffuni List-Id: Maintenance of FreeBSD's integrated toolchain List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:27:09 -0000 Hello;=0A=A0=0AJust my $0.02.=0A=A0=0A----- Original Message -----=0A=A0...= =0A> Can you, please, read what I wrote ? Fixing _ports_ to compile with=0A= > clang is plain wrong. Upstream developers use gcc almost always for=0A> d= evelopment and testing. Establishing another constant cost on the=0A> porti= ng work puts burden on the ports submitters, maintainers and even=0A> ports= users.=0A> =0A> I do strongly oppose the attempt to drain the freebsd reso= urces by=0A> forcing porters to port third-party code to other compiler.=0A= > =0A=0AI can only speak for Apache OpenOffice but since Apple did the swit= ch=0Aalready we are feeling a growing pressure to port OpenOffice to clang.= =0A=0AFor the time being we need gcc but we would really prefer something= =0Amore up to date than gcc 4.2.1 + fixes. In other words, yes making=0Acla= ng the default may sound drastic but I am OK with killing base=0Agcc and if= clang is what is left I can live with it.=0A=0APedro.