From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 10 7:29:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346DC37B405 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 07:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5AETi475628; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:29:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:29:44 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Danny Horne Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Curious about release schedule Message-ID: <20020610102944.A75456@blackhelicopters.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from danny@clifftop.net on Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:53:03PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Danny Horne wrote: > Hi all, > > Apologies if this isn't the right group, but I'm curious as to why there's a > version 4.8 of FreeBSD being released more than 2 months after version 5 has > been released. Hello, Having survived 2.2.0-R, 3.0-R, and 4.0-R, I have to say: The .0 release can be scary. Very, very scary. Heck, 3.x didn't become really solid until about 3.2-3.3. 4.0 was an exception to the rule, and was actually a pretty good .0. 5.0-stable promises to have all sorts of nifty features. These features promise to introduce new and interesting bugs. Everything from the random number generator to kernel throads has been redone. The potential for unexpected interactions between these components is huge. As a long-time FreeBSD devotee and rather experienced sysadmin, I probably won't be installing 5.x in production until at least 5.2-R. I hope I'm wrong, but I think a lot of people are going to install 5.0-R and be in for a big, unpleasant surprise when their particular situation exposes nasty horrible bugs. I use FreeBSD so I can sleep at night. 5.0-R is a necessary step along our way to kicking the software world's butt. But I plan to keep using 4.x on mission-critical systems for some time after it appears. Many other sysadmins feel the same way. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons Absolute BSD: http://www.nostarch.com/abs_bsd.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message