From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 31 11:15:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.Ferguson.com (mailgate.ferguson.com [205.139.23.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE5D15488 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:15:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from branson@FergInc.com) Received: from belmakor.hq.ferg.com (belmakor.hq.ferg.com [172.16.74.60]) by mailgate.Ferguson.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1B99B3B; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:15:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from branson@localhost) by belmakor.hq.ferg.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id OAA92542; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:15:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:15:23 -0500 From: Branson Matheson To: Matthew McGehrin Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: uptimes, Woo Hoo Message-ID: <19991231141523.B427@belmakor.Ferguson.com> Reply-To: Branson.Matheson@FergInc.com Mail-Followup-To: Matthew McGehrin , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <19991231190325.860CB10F4F@quake3.idgames.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991231190325.860CB10F4F@quake3.idgames.com> Organization: Ferguson Enterprises, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-RC Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 02:02:59PM -0500,Matthew McGehrin did mutter: > On 31 Dec 99, at 13:53, Barrett Richardson wrote: > > > Couldn't resist taking a picture of my uptimes (in case they fall > > victim to a power outage). The Webserver and Shell Server are lower > > than the others because of Stupid Admin Tricks. > > Mailserver > > 1:32PM up 324 days, 12:23, 8 users, load averages: 0.15, 0.29, 0.29 > > High 'uptimes' are cool i guess, but not from an administrative > stand point. So if you reboot your machine, and something doesnt > work, you have 324 days of backtracking to figure out what was > changed. Ermmm... You _should_ be able to duplicate the conditions up to a point for any service that is started at boot time .. especially something in /etc/rc.local. So rebooting is not that necessary. Now if you change something basic to the system ( amd, /bin/sh, etc ) you should test it. If you change something that _could_ be basic to the system ( perl ) you might consider at least testing the scripts that are called at boot time. But rebooting once a month just to make sure won't work in this production environment.. so we are just careful about what we change.. and test the hell outta it too ;-) kheva% uptime 2:25PM up 299 days, 15:07, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 kheva% uname -a FreeBSD kheva 3.1-19990219-STABLE Happy New year! - branson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Branson Matheson " If you are falling off of a mountain, Unix Systems Manager You may as well try to fly." Ferguson Enterprises, Inc. - Delenn, Minbari Ambassador ( $statements = ) !~ /Corporate Opinion/; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message