From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 16: 8:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC69737B406 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175E443E5E for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from sdn-ar-004dcwashp025.dialsprint.net ([206.133.21.137] helo=moo.holy.cow) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17Uxu9-0000o4-00; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:08:22 -0700 Received: by moo.holy.cow (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2535E50DF6; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:11:01 -0400 From: parv To: Erik Trulsson Cc: f-q Subject: Re: why/how new kernel build method succeeds after old method fails? Message-ID: <20020717231101.GA10090@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Trulsson , f-q References: <20020717220728.GA9568@moo.holy.cow> <20020717221043.GA28377@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020717221043.GA28377@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in message <20020717221043.GA28377@falcon.midgard.homeip.net>, wrote Erik Trulsson thusly... > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:07:28PM -0400, parv wrote: > > now and then i see messages on -questions & -stable list stating > > that "old" (config && cd && make) kernel building method fails while > > the "new" (make buildkernel) method succeeds afterwords. > > > > i would have expected to new method to fail too. could anybody > > explain the phenomenon? > > The "old" method uses the compiler/linker/etc. that you > already have installed to build the kernel. > The "new" method uses the tools just built by a previous buildworld, > that are presumably more up to date. may be that's why i haven't experienced the problem personally! your comment seems to imply that people upgrade the source, don't go thru the install world process, and continue on to build kernel old way. according to UPDATING, one shouldn't do that anyway for versions 4.0 (20000315) onward (build the kernel the new way instead). to me, that indicates that people are not reading UPDATING carefully enough. - parv -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message