From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 9 23:28:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE69D1065688 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from bee.hiwaay.net (bee.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708C48FC13 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from [10.0.0.183] ([216.186.148.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m99NS46A1149947 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:28:05 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0810090811t7d32b0cekde2a55fbaabaa2fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081008223925.GB97321@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <2F5A85A9-3C1C-4328-9D4C-8722B3FDB2A1@ahm-inc.com> <28283d910810081851h7ab99b5y94b68f04b2a956e7@mail.gmail.com> <74E268D6-92EB-415F-8A28-86909F2F8B56@ahm-inc.com> <20081009143515.GA41174@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <94136a2c0810090811t7d32b0cekde2a55fbaabaa2fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <54C46368-FF5F-483F-B76E-650F0C4ED804@HiWAAY.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:28:04 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org, Chad Marshall Subject: Re: uptime 2 years! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:28:08 -0000 On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 05:11:13PM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > But the discussion that followed made me realize that uptime is not > everything. I also love to see huge uptimes on my servers but if > anything this discussion brought it home to me that more than anything > I need to take care of security updates which I do. Yes, uptime isn't everything. But when security notices are published its important to read the notice and question whether it immediately applies to your situation. In my case a kernel flaw which allows an otherwise valid user to elevate authority is not terribly important on my 2 year machine. Something which allows an unauthorized user into the machine is important. OTOH while my kernel has been running 2 years I have wiped ports completely several times and reinstalled. IIRC it takes 3 or 4 days to build X11 and KDE last time I tired. No longer has X11 or KDE. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.