From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:58:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728E9106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0D48FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8ADw5JR009736 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:58:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8ADw46J009735 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:58:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:58:04 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009101658.04567.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:58:07 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Friday 10 September 2010 16:46:57 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Ra= ndal L. Schwartz =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > >>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: >=20 > Jules> Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language > Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems!= I > Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > Jules> browser. >=20 > And that's why I challenged you as to "why". We needed Java to run in > the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. But with > HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? >=20 Because tones of app(let)s were written on this technology, and those runni= ng them cannot afford rewriting them. its easier to just fix the plugin than rewrite every applet on earth using = javascript. PS i have news from the front. The exact successful applets tested on my 8.1-RELEASE amd64 are successful = in Ubuntu i386 as well, and the failing ones, fail on Ubuntu as well. > Java had its day. Time to move on. >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios