From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 30 3:14:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13303.mail.yahoo.com (web13303.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AA9B37B433 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sumirati@yahoo.de) Message-ID: <20010830101434.97704.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.174.9.99] by web13303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:14:34 CEST Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:14:34 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?m=20p?= Subject: [OT] Problems with the mailing list (was Re: test - please ignore) To: jason@jason-n3xt.org, kmidtset@c2i.net Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Kjell wrote: > > Jason! > Some 6 months ago when I first subscribed to this list I had the same > difficulties as you. > -My postings did not appear or appeared 2 days later. > -Postings in an interesting thread were missing. > -Postings were repeated once an hour for up to 6 days. > -etc etc > None of this could be repeated on the test mail list. > My understanding of the problem is that the mail server for this list does a > backcheck to your mail server. If the proper response is not received, > you are in trouble. > My ISP is running a Solaris OS with a Postfix MTU that were not properly > set up. It took him 3 months and lots of frustration on my part to get it > fixed. Try to do a reverse NS lookup on his mail server. > Now I can participate in the list. > The way things are now there will always be people like you and me that > in sheer frustration will post test messages to this list. The only way to > avoid this is to "relax" the setup of this list's mail server. > It would also be helpful if the responses to the test messages are a bit > helpful instead of the often rather acid responses.. > You have my full sympaties > regards from Kjell/LA3SG > First of all: Please stop this thread. Now to my personal opinion: We have a setup for the mailing lists which helps us keeping spam out and letting non subscribed people send mails to the list. It is the moderate way. Yes, it works not for all people. Some say: "There is too much spam here." Some say: "I can not send mails." We _have_ already a compromise in place. And this topic comes up more than one time a month. Let it die every time it comes up - or discuss beside from the list. My very personal opinion: If your email provider has his systems not configured this way - change him. Try a seperate yahoo/hotmail/ for your mailing lists - for free. Try someone who has configured their systems "the right way" [tm]. One test message is ok - but not a bunch of. If you wanted to add a statement send it directly to me. The list has enough noice without this thread. Marc __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message