From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 22:02:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EF910656CE for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 22:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15EE8FC1A for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 22:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4RM2ZUk055516; Thu, 28 May 2009 00:02:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4RM2XMO055508; Thu, 28 May 2009 00:02:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 00:02:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200905272331.12954.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: References: <4A1A9FF0.40609@webrz.net> <200905272226.05732.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <200905272331.12954.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jos Chrispijn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Streaming server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:02:44 -0000 > DEST STATE AGE EXP PKTS BYTES > 62.75.158.169:8020 4:4 05:03:05 23:59:59 380K 296M > > 5 hours of online radio and I downloaded 296Meg. I don't want that hitting my > harddisk at all. And if I do, then I can always record it. you don't have to. use for example mplayer with URL as argument. > - Bandwidth: This didn't interrupt noticeably with my work (ssh sessions) and > other web use (port downloads, remote imap, webmail, smtp over ssh, etc) and > I'm currently not using altq. same as above. > > That's just from client perspective. From server perspective, the bandwidth > advantage should be clear. There's no real advantage to gain maintaining altq > rules / mod_bandwidth / foo-solution or a streaming server, except if the > former are already in place. > > Most important is to consider if your users "want to save the file", cause a > lot of clients hide or don't provide this feature. Over time though, as speeds > and availability increase more and more people are seeing the internet as > "another harddrive" so that distinction will fade. anyway lots of people do download things to disks. the disks are usually huge today and mostly unused. > > If I'm correct, Jos is from .nl, where people are spoiled in that respect [1]. > > [1] http://www.upc.nl/internet/ up to 120MBit down, 10Mbit up. > -- > Mel > >