From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 28 22:31:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB7316A4D7 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:31:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF04943D5E for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:31:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B39D785682; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:01:26 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:01:26 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: <20050228223126.GL73162@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4223788C.9060908@attglobal.net> <86hdjw1hfb.fsf@xps.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1X+6QtwRodzgDPAC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86hdjw1hfb.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: chat@freebsd.org cc: David Scheidt Subject: Re: 3 button mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:31:31 -0000 --1X+6QtwRodzgDPAC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 28 February 2005 at 22:52:08 +0100, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > David Scheidt writes: >> I need a three button mouse. Just three buttons, no wheel, no bells, >> no whistles. I can't find one, as everything has a silly wheel. I'm >> not picky about interface (PS/2, USB, serial, or Bluetooth will work), >> or balls v. optical. Does anyone still sell these things? > > what do you have against mouse wheels? they are very useful in X, > and also function as a middle button. Let me count the ways... 1. Few FreeBSD applications support the wheel out of the box, so it's not much use. 2. Setup is non-trivial. Every mouse seems to have its own protocol, and I have a number here which I can't enable. 3. They're an ergonomic disaster. The wheel that functions as a middle button is in the wrong position for this function. It should be about 15 mm further towards the finger tip. In its current position, you have to bend your middle finger to touch it, and then you have to be careful not to turn the wheel (unless it isn't enabled, in which case it's not a problem). 4. In addition to being in the wrong place, the spring on the middle button is usually too heavy. I'm currently using a wheel mouse (for the same reasons as David, I suppose). The wheel is disabled. Using the middle button is so unpleasant that I've chosen to replace it with the 1-3 chord click, effectively reducing the thing to a 2 button mouse. Coincidentally, just before I read this message, I found an old Logitech 3 button PS/2 mouse lying around, and I may end up using it again. At least for FreeBSD users, mouse technology has not progressed. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --1X+6QtwRodzgDPAC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCI5u+IubykFB6QiMRAj0tAJ9Yje2vKZwakuyyvAkTO4N3zdFj3wCfc+yV g8iOjXr0J3BCdJvmZ5EfE+o= =P1Ec -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1X+6QtwRodzgDPAC--