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[177.53.82.16]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5a478bee46e88-2f88885be8esm2870525eec.22.2026.05.08.09.37.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 May 2026 09:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9ed12219-6e78-4156-b0df-aca91a732127@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 13:37:52 -0300 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Update strategy and timing To: bob prohaska , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: Content-Language: en-US From: Renato Botelho Autocrypt: addr=garga@FreeBSD.org; keydata= xsBNBGStavwBCACjNlp/9+Y+VFe9ieR2h/WWbdvjz4Mb2z/f22bGoaskzCfvVNbo/v3i34I9 H6OdgZkGqheQEAD2jNfRbmPr4z40xDMUpYGLds+1Mvg7G3Hms3j5Ef8KaLSWUNWIfwKdfSVR Qs35ccSJxAdRW5YdI6J3xZgika+3Bc4eJ05YE/nWW+PNTYevt5rqD50N3zybVYIcLoqVPpBi AZE/sf5SLiLACIJb1t/s4x+pi8vgWevxVVT9u8V1f8zYErmHSLSqjxii0B3eRZphX9NCJOv9 +tfFZhnENInhn9gT7H4e2YumUltEy3jacONHJF3CC1pvvWEa6lEyypclMOkHQwNON7DLABEB AAHNLFJlbmF0byBCb3RlbGhvIChGcmVlQlNEKSA8Z2FyZ2FARnJlZUJTRC5vcmc+wsCXBBMB CgBBAhsDBQkFo5qABQsJCAcDBRUKCQgLBRYDAgEAAh4FAheAFiEERL7Dxegbnh7xTiQ5Ob6P xxJcZXoFAmSta78CGQEACgkQOb6PxxJcZXrYlggAgaZmr6c1yIWzN8VksHrHpwt/uxONEP+h ljy3yfrMsgfS5wx5Uzgfih1xYZUFC6jiI63CetqBqJpp3g1klRS1UWYKx2NeXphDMYZEdPm/ a6sXh4bKZbk6IE8Yn0/YiRT57d9DtbvswC7Gn7Igj/MSbhl49TvTGyvuB6juaffVoYZViomx 5zMoee8Ml2o2qj3MrCJ+/K8GU54RlpOGqGRsqdwVdr9XEWub6fF2YFwR46cjmbiU3P5urFHH nkJlBGPIwKxHimTW0lZsdx9aCKRDd/D80/WOEzXmk3k8B9lv/GsvOluHmveLhJG1R1tIJ31I f2q8dfTvqsQXnu8CcWRcgc7ATQRkrWr8AQgA1DufoxScA+CWQbUR6zExIu8wXQKrhuRt4DG2 BgynT7EMUvEBadcbQRZXsBpemNfncc9Axyut/+rWiyKJf9BLQuo/9QYmSRvW1U6+0LJUYmdg kMyBeYaPk+vnssv/u9jLuvV7FVgyE0yk1iaWIKOVDD+XrQCOvGw9uSceBrQyCyo3A/eRM/+p vnDCaywR63PKE+3axk6lfNdGK3TnaWmS30/ZDCZlNsXuqprqR4JdT5wXids5o36dsuJ5EZ20 s5hNMD34s4Yr1Y1R9elH6qBsFCpozs0+jwrArxq+UJJCR6hH5W8ZEwJtRC8tzR8mRE1WywzX BXYj0YhfGztQIxZckQARAQABwsB8BBgBCgAmFiEERL7Dxegbnh7xTiQ5Ob6PxxJcZXoFAmSt avwCGwwFCQWjmoAACgkQOb6PxxJcZXr1vgf/SKXhoZcUU5I7TqcbHg0lJz9tICTupCGHWr/s SQgjh9oEM5j1wqW7FlCGP90Tl9K0g3ow9YdbhU7VK470o6pymX9V9eLHzGgkZO/KMEtGBeK1 u+5ePjCJ/MK5B21KODLSU7WrIL1VN5ceXfQPLYt02LMLtPri+oduHD6RNBeA7US1DUzleq5F 9NHGbvV2U7BdDUezpiO8NaFjFZVB11I5d99FxUM5XGVstI3VhsRKZxjY0KnqJzaQgTFsPGmv AUfZVIN1pXgXiedhPXpr8+Y64jP+pHVwpVmh1zYWL6+q3kqFOUVP6c5iiMeoEXZvgJz7x/AC ek3X5gvu8Hpcv+MZIg== In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gBvtZ1CNfz3PDt X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 08/05/26 12:48, bob prohaska wrote: > Is there a preferred strategy to timing updates > for self-hosted FreeBSD systems? > > On the stable branches it's easy; just update when > updates are announced and build/install. Once caught > up, things can be left alone for days at least.. > > With -current there's essentially no pause in the > stream of fresh commits, so git finds a new commit > by the time buildworld finishes. > > Is there some marker or indicator that signals the > -current tree is at least nominally consistent and > buildable? I'm not asking if it'll work, just whenter > it's worth a try. > > For example, my practice has been to run git pull, > then make buildworld. If buildworld succeeds, I'll > try another pull. If nothing new shows up then run > install and reboot. This works with a stable branch, > but with -current there are always fresh commits. > > I've tried looking at the commits to see if they're > relevant to problems I'm seeing, rebuilding if they > are and proceeding with install if they seem unrelated. > > Is this approach at all sound? Is there a better way? You can follow the stabilization week mark. More information at: https://wiki.freebsd.org/StabWeeks -- Renato Botelho