From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 16 08:53:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699D316A420 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:53:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars@gmx.at) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76A6443D45 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:53:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Feb 2006 08:53:19 -0000 Received: from 234.241.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch (EHLO storage.mine.nu) [62.203.241.234] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 16 Feb 2006 09:53:19 +0100 X-Authenticated: #912863 Received: from storage.mine.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storage.mine.nu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1G8r4ab052839 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:53:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@storage.mine.nu) Received: (from lars@localhost) by storage.mine.nu (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1G8r4dc052838 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:53:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:53:04 +0100 From: lars To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060216085304.GA52806@storage.mine.nu> References: <20060216005036.L60635@ganymede.hub.org> <20060216053725.GB15586@parts-unknown.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060216053725.GB15586@parts-unknown.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: [Total OT] Trying to improve some numbers ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:53:21 -0000 David Benfell wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:01:33 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > FreeBSD is showing 4th place right now behind Linux, SunOS and Netware for > > Average Uptimes ... with ours being an average of 120 days > > > Which shows yet again how utterly worthless this kind of rating is. > > So here's the problem as *I* see it: Do you participate in such > silliness for dubious PR value at the risk of supporting the use of > invalid methodology, or do you refuse at the risk of appearing to have > something to hide? Now, the way I frame this makes pretty clear *my* > preference, but possibly others have other ways to frame it. I agree with your assessment. A long uptime means that the machine hasn't been rebooted for a long time. If that time's longer than the time to the last patch that required a kernel recompilation and a reboot, it means the server is not patched. Where's the point in advertising an unpatched machine?