From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Oct 15 02:08:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA02125 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 02:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports) Received: from DonaldBurr.dyn.ml.org (root@ppp6237.la.inreach.net [199.107.160.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA02026; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 02:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@POBoxes.com) Received: from DonaldBurr.dyn.ml.org (dburr@DonaldBurr.DonaldBurr.dyn.ml.org [192.160.60.1]) by DonaldBurr.dyn.ml.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA15983; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 02:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9710150749.AA14643@bragg> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 01:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Starfleet Command From: Donald Burr To: Kristian Kennaway Subject: Re: 8 days until 2.2.5... Administrative notices. Cc: ports-jp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, jraynard@jraynard.demon.co.uk, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, (Andreas Klemm) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- My secret spy satellite informs me that on 15-Oct-97, Kristian Kennaway wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 14, 1997 at 02:08:57AM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: >> > * On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 03:56:57AM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: >> > * I know this is probably too late for 2.2.5, but I thought it might >be >> > * worth mentioning anyway. What do people think to putting the size >of >> > * the tarball somewhere in the skeleton for each port? This would >be >> > * very helpful for people with poor Internet connectivity. Quite a >few >> > * times I've thought about installing a port, but wasn't sure how >long >> > * a download I was letting myself in for. Currently, the only way >this >> > * can be done is by looking on the master site. >> > >> > Hmm. That is an interesting idea. >> >> Another thing is, that it would be fine, if fetch would show >> more infos about the download progress. Percent of downloaded >> data, performance (K/sec), estimated time remaining. >> >> When downloading large files it would be extremely useful. > >This is why I prefer ncftp v2.x as my ftp client - I wonder if it would >be possible to replace fetch with ncftp as the ports file-collection >mechanism if fetch doesnt have these capabilities (and they cant easily >be added). Noooo, not that! :) If you were around in the FreeBSD 2.0.5 days, you might remember that the ports system at that time actually used ncftp to get the distfiles. fetch was written to replace ncftp as the distfile getter, because (I believe) ncftp had a more encumbering copyright/license (I think it's shareware?) and the FreeBSD team obviously didn't want this. Also, they wanted to allow http transfers (as well as ftp), which fetch does. I think going back to ncftp would be a big step backwards! which is imho the WRONG direction to be looking! :) But I do agree that fetch should be somewhat more verbose in the information it delivers. Something like this: Getting foo.tar.gz (380k/1522k), 25% done, 3.6 K/sec, 0:18 remaining... The k/sec figure would be useful to make sure you're getting the most ouf or your modem (or to brag about your high speed internet connection), and the time remaining is would be very useful for deciiding whether you want to sit there and wait for the port to download, or if you want to abort it). - --- Donald Burr - Ask me for my PGP key | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ #1347455 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNESHzvjpixuAwagxAQEscQP+POSXDslm3wLx2kC53fcAm7673HHelUdK YWcKWlj3uaQ9fIXXlV10+6soKWFVAqYDWAz3debaEl7a4x3pk/OwOi1+9sB5LRa4 774FKqjKRTo/bveacM0pYl9/RT5eiWVuK07RIGCzF3do5zSdRMczcaKhscEKROBN qXQ2ogswIGY= =A+g2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----