From owner-cvs-all Thu Aug 23 15:19:12 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (foo.lab.nuxi.com [66.123.5.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B742E37B40E; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7NMIR102666; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200108232146.f7NLk1g88405@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Brian Somers Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/mtree BSD.var.d Cc: brian@freebsd-services.com, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, Jun Kuriyama , "Andrey A. Chernov" , Chris Dillon , Matt Dillon , Mike Silbersack Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Aug-01 Brian Somers wrote: >> Clearly it's not going to be easy to set the defaults to use bind:bind >> without breaking some configurations. However, this is something that >> _should_ be done. > > This (damage) has already been done in -current. I am saying that doing > this in -stable -- breaking peoples existing configurations -- is an > exercise that will make the FreeBSD project look like idiots, and I > won't subscribe to that idea. > > Why are people so eager to shove these changes down the throats of > the unsuspecting masses running -stable ? Is everyone trying to > scare away our user base ? This is the core of the problem. You can change things like this in -current fine. People expect changes when jumping branches. However, 4.x is rather established at this point, so breaking things in 4.x is something to be avoided. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.Baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message