From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 00:54:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F581065674 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 00:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF0B58FC12 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 00:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2382 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jun 2012 00:54:30 -0000 Received: from 67.206.185.198 by rms-us013.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:54:27 -0400 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20120627005428.298430@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: kzyYb/cV3zOlNR3dAHAhDF1+IGRvb8DW Subject: Re: Freeze when running freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 00:54:37 -0000 Robert writes: > 3) the box is responsive to hitting enter at the console (it produces > another login: prompt) Getty is in memory and can run. > 5) if I try to login to the console, it lets me enter a username then > locks up totally, it does not present me with a password: prompt. Login(1) is not in memory, and the kernel cannot read it from disk for some reason. I can get this symptom by writing a large file to a disk on a controller that FreeBSD doesn't support NCQ on. I assume there is a logjam in the buffer cache. Something trivial like reading login in from disk that would normally happen in well under a second can take many minutes. Perhaps geli is causing a similar logjam? Does it hang forever or is it just obscenely slow? If it truely hangs forever it is probably something else. Is there disk activity after it hangs? Can you try it without geli? systat -vmstat might provide a clue.