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[98.212.131.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m92sm5406772ioi.41.2015.06.29.14.23.49 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5591B756.2090702@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 16:23:34 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual booting plus Hyper-V References: <55905A0A.1070600@gmail.com> <20150629092517.afec2a3e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150629092517.afec2a3e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:23:51 -0000 On 6/29/2015 2:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:33:14 -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: >> After many years, I'm thinking of turning my beastie into a gaming box >> plus home server. It's overpowered for my current use. I'm not sure >> wine's up to the task for hassle free gaming. > > Well, wine is pretty much advanced nowadays. If wine is > not sufficient, there's winex which is a special variation > of wine intended for gaming use. > > I'm running several "Windows" games myself with wine, as > well as Linux games on FreeBSD. No problems. :-) I know it depends a lot on the game, some are perfect and some just fail due to insufficient support. Dual booting between Windows and FreeBSD solves that. >> I think the easiest thing >> would be running Windows on it's own hard drive with FreeBSD running in >> Hyper-V. > > That sounds like overhead... Running Windows and keeping the FreeBSD daemons running requires overhead. Overhead would be better than a dedicated second computer. >> I'd get a dedicated windows disk as well as the BSD disks. > > The idea with dedicated disks is very good. It will allow you > to replace OS installations easily (at least with FreeBSD). > But why not simply dual-boot from one of the disks? Either > you select the boot disk in the BIOS menu (if available), > or you install the FreeBSD boot manager on the boot disk > and let it boot normally (FreeBSD) or to the "Windows" disk. > This gives you the full advantage of using FreeBSD without > the overhead and possible problems with a hypervisor. > Furthermore, today's boot processes are _fast_, so switching > from one to the other OS can be a thing of less than a minute. > The only situation where this does not work is when you need > to run both FreeBSD and "Windows" at the same time. Is that > one of your requirements? Ideally I'd want the server processes to continue running. It operates as my IMAP and NAS server primarily so it's nothing intensive but I'd prefer to keep it running. >> The system is all ZFS on GPT at the moment. Is this >> practical or is are there other alternatives to consider? > > Native (OS-controlled) ZFS use or through a hypervisor? Hmmmm... > As I mentioned, I would go with real dual-boot instead... Maybe I worded the dual boot idea poorly. I want the computer to dual boot between Windows and FreeBSD. I want the FreeBSD drives to boot seamlessly between booting in Hyper-V and directly on the computer.