From owner-freebsd-current Mon Aug 5 2: 3:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB1537B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 02:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opiate.thirteenandtwo.org (CPE0030ab0ef2bb.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.103.202.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A154F43E3B for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 02:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from munish@opiate.thirteenandtwo.org) Received: by opiate.thirteenandtwo.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A1B33E11; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 05:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 05:04:36 -0400 From: Munish Chopra To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About 5.0 and Nvidia drivers Message-ID: <20020805090436.GB21053@opiate.thirteenandtwo.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3D4E05DB.8030803@math.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D4E05DB.8030803@math.columbia.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-08-05 00:58 +0000, Alp ATICI wrote: > Frank Mayhar wrote: > > >I'll bet you that there'll be drivers for it before there are drivers for > >the GF4. > > I guess that is never going to be the case. Since ATI does not produce > drivers for linux (or any other UNIX) and has no such plans (AFAIK). Well, their official stance is that they're "open" to, for example, open source projects. Approach any of the big players in the graphics market through developer relations channels though, and well...don't hold your breath. > XFree86 supports it, this is another story. Still you don't have any 3D > acceleration. Thus you can't count this as a driver. But you can go for > Accel-X's x server. However with NVidia case, they provide perfect > drivers for linux. So Nvidia's stance is quite better compared to > ATI's. Yet they don't want to open their OpenGL implementation because > of SGI patents (Am I right?). But still they might release (as far as > I've heard) a FreeBSD driver which would be quite good. I don't care > about a 10% working driver for a card of worth $200 anyway. I care about > full support. I'd even go for the Matrox Parhelia if it's supported well > under FreeBSD (via Xfree86 or other X servers). SGI's stance isn't exactly as closed as everyone thinks it is. Speculation has the problems pegged at additional third-party code and NVIDIA themselves, but speculation is just that and no more. FWIW, you will see an NVIDIA driver, and the time frame is not nearly as unknown as it was even just a couple of hours ago. NVIDIA is satisfied on their end, so things are falling into place now. Keep hope alive. Honestly, most of the speculation in this thread isn't going anywhere. You need to wait for the companies to step up to the plate. Unless someone on the inside is willing to put in a substantial effort on your behalf, it's more or less a lost cause. Sad, but mostly true. -- Munish Chopra To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message