From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Jul 25 13:38:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F7EA4FCE for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36C2D83342 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1hqdwP-000Ara-5u; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:37:53 +0300 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:37:53 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Robert Simmons Cc: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Old Stuff Message-ID: <20190725133753.GL47119@zxy.spb.ru> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 36C2D83342 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.16)[0.155,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zxy.spb.ru]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.958,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[zxy.spb.ru]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.70)[0.696,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5495, ipnet:195.70.192.0/19, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[country: RU(0.01)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:38:03 -0000 On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 02:56:47PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: > The safer part of my speculation is specifically based on being less code > to maintain overall. More resources devoted to a smaller code base. Best of all is completly remove any code: no code -- no hole. > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:26 PM Igor Mozolevsky > wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 24 July 2019, Robert Simmons wrote: > > > > Lolz, right? :- > > > > > I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove > > all > > > of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and > > safer. > > > > Because nobody has a 32bit computer nowadays??? Similarly, you got any > > empirical evidence to back up the "... safer" part of your speculation? > > > > > In this same vein, let's deprecate and remove things like telnet and ftp. > > > > > > How does the saying go, "if you think that encryption is the solution to > > your problem then you don't understand neither encryption nor your > > problem"? I would hazard a guess that over 95% of encrypted traffic needn't > > be encrypted at all, but no commercial interest developed "integrity over > > http" so we all have to suffer "encryption under http" instead. > > > > > > -- > > > > Igor M. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"