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Date:      Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:42:43 -0500 (EST)
From:      Sam <sah@softcardsystems.com>
To:        Paul Schenkeveld <fb-hackers@psconsult.nl>
Cc:        Andrea Campi <andrea+freebsd_hackers@webcom.it>
Subject:   Re: ZFS
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.60.0409151640560.21034@athena>
In-Reply-To: <20040915203403.GA26454@psconsult.nl>
References:  <41483C97.2030303@fer.hr> <Pine.LNX.4.60.0409151047230.21034@athena> <20040915154338.GA55823@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20040915170322.GA75590@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20040915203403.GA26454@psconsult.nl>

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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Paul Schenkeveld wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 06:03:22PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 05:43:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 05:26:39PM +0200, Andrea Campi wrote..
>>>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 10:59:36AM -0500, Sam wrote:
>>>>> Call me crazy, but does anyone else see this as hooey?  2^64 512B
>>>>> sectors is 8192 zettabytes (zetta, exa, peta, tera, ...).
>>>> [...]
>>>>> Crappy marketing articles.
>>>>
>>>> This one's good though. fortune(6) worthy, I mean:
>>>>
>>>> Populating 128-bit file systems would exceed the quantum limits of
>>>> earth-based storage. You couldn't fill a 128-bit storage pool without
>>>> boiling the oceans.
>>>
>>> Hmmmm... that explains the global warming then...
>>
>> I once calculated that there were sufficient IPv6 addresses (another
>> 128 bit quantity) to provide a distinct address for every cluster of
>> about 10^12 atoms within planet Earth.  10^12 atoms sounds like quite
>> a lot, but it is much smaller than a typical bacterium and a hell of a
>> lot smaller than any transistor ever manufactured: even if you
>> converted the entire planet into a data storage system, you wouldn't
>> have enough matter to build a filesystem that big, let alone power
>> supplies, cabling, support structures etc.
>
> Be ware...
>
>  Jules Verne was called crazy when he saw men would walk on the moon
>  sometime.
>
>  Leonardo da Vinci was laughed at when he envisioned people flying like
>  birds.
>
> We people had things wrong in the past when we held things for impossible.
>
> We may not be around to witness storing over 2^128 bytes of information
> but your words sound like NEVER and I think that's a scary word.

And of course when we get there ZFS will be the storage filesystem of
choice.

Sam



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